On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 09:25, Charles Obler <joyinstruggle@yahoo.com> wrote:
There is something about this that doesn't make sense. I'd like to know exactly who it was who decided that we needed "A Whole New Concept"
The people who make it their task... their personal project... who spend their time working on projects THEY want to. We are just users who benefit (or do not benefit) from someone else's proverbial itch scratching.
If Linux can have two major DE's and several minor ones, why CAN'T it have three?
You answered your own question. The resources. There is a finite number of developers. They are not usually paid to do this work. They develop KDE because it's something they are interested in. Imagine you're a developer donating your time to a project... do you just mindlessly maintain the existing code (which was known to be virtually unmaintainable in many cases) until the end of time, or given the opportunity to work on something new would you rather try out the new stuff and exercise your skills a bit? The release of QT4 was an opportunity for the KDE devs to stretch a bit and step out of the confines of QT3.
We were not given a choice -- that is the real problem here.
Yes you were... but by your own admission, you did not try out KDE4 at all during the early development phase. You said you were on oS10.2 until just recently when you installed 11.2 and encountered KDE4 for the first time. KDE4 has been in development for more than a few months.. it's been in process for more than 2 years now.... or is it 3... anyway, did you participate at the very beginning? KDE4 wasn't developed in secret. The choices were made by those that participated in the development.... if you don't participate.... you take what you get. This applies to all projects.. be it KDE4, Gnome3, OpenOffice.org, KOffice or whatever.
I'm trying hard to like KDE 4.3.1, and I have to admit that it's not all bad, and the shortcomings are probably fixable, over time.
And LOADS has been fixed in KDE4.4... and more is coming for 4.5. Is there any reason you're sticking with 4.3.1 and not updating to at least 4.3.5?
In the meantime, what's wrong with continuing to identify the things we liked about 3.5?
Nothing at all. That's what Dotan has been driving here on the mailing list. Look through the mailing list archives if you've missed them. The things people miss have been collected up and submitted as either bug reports or feature requests.
: the ability to align desktop icons with a single command
You can do this.
: the icons displayed on the taskbar
You can do this.
: short-cut key access to the menu bar in konsole
You can do this... I think... if I understand what you're asking for here....
I'm told that 4.3 has a "sort" command that arranges the desktop icons, but I can't find it anywhere.
Did you try right click? I can't remember if it's in 4.3.1, but it's in 4.4. I don't like how it currently works, but... I haven't taken the time to check the bug reports for this yet.
On the taskbar, instead of icons identifying the active applications, I have blank grey boxes.
Then something is broken, incorrectly set up, or you've set an unusual theme... or something else... they work fine in all installs I've done both in 4.3.1 and 4.4.
I DID find that I can use the mount command to make USB memory accessible.
That has nothing to do with KDE4... and more to do with how openSUSe is set up. That would be the same (or at least I would expect it to be the same) regardless of what window manager you choose. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org