On 18/11/2018 20:03, Richard Brown wrote:
I do not see the sense, at all, to advise users to use a seperate /home partition to facilitate an upgrade approach which we do not recommend, document, consider in our packaging and tooling, nor test (or in other words..support).
Then you are not considering the bigger picture here, which you need to do. *SUSE is not a majority, monoculture or dominant player in its space; and Linux is not the dominant OS in the field where *SUSE offers products. Therefore we should act like it, not like a monopolist or would-be monopolists such as Microsoft, Apple or even Red Hat.
Many people are wrong, I'd rather we optimise to support the ones who are right.
To quote Mr Spock, "logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few". What is best for most users is what to optimise for, _not_ what is better for any subgroup; rightness or wrongness does not enter into it.
And with snapshots enabled I consider your above to be redundant
Relying on a particular feature of a particular non-mainstream FS with notable issues is a bad idea. It doesn't matter what that feature (or FS) is.
We should optimise our distribution for the tools and workflows we have today and which we actively build, test, and support. We shouldn't have defaults chosen to facilitate inadvisable bad habits left over from a bygone age.
STRONGLY disagree. In fact, the reverse is true. What enabled Linux to thrive, as opposed to rivals such as *BSD, is "optimising" (to use your word) for interoperability, compatibility, and playing well with others. THAT is the path to choose. Always.
Until I see a bug report with logs to the contrary, my opinion is that Juan's story is likely one of user error before product error.
The cause does not matter; the correct choice is to identify what made it easy to pick the incorrect path, and make sure it is not easy to choose incorrectly.
I've seen YaST warn me too robustly too often to have strong doubts of it's ability in this area.
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