Blame it on the Elven fonts, those Dwarves are right...:). Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.susewm... ?? ? SuSEwm: ERROR: gnome: no "name" defined ! ?? ? SuSEwm: ERROR: blackbox: no name defined ! ?? ? SuSEwm: ERROR: wmaker: no name defined ! ?? ? SuSEwm: ERROR: wmaker: no name defined ! ?? ? SuSEwm: ERROR: wmaker: no name defined ! ?? ? SuSEwm: ERROR: wmaker: no name defined ! ?? ? SuSEwm: ERROR: wmaker: no name defined ! ?? ? SuSEwm: ERROR: wmaker: no name defined ! Elven fonts had been removed then these problem occured a short time after. Any ideas what could cause this and how to fix perhaps? Hunted high and low... Matt