Out of curiosity from reading this thread. I have a couple of machines running, which were originally a 10.0 install. I have done 'live' upgrades of those systems, 10.0 -> 10.2 -> 10.3, and plan on going -> 11.0. I haven't run into any of the problems described in this thread, or perhaps I missed a point ? I've used the smart package manager for all the upgrades, and my procedure have been as follows: Remove all repos Add repo's for new version Do a smart upgrade --update Remove all packages on the system, which is not in the new repo's (get rid of those packages that was available for e.g. 10.2, but not 10.3) Both machines function fine, and are not a mess. So, have I been lucky, or would this be a safe procedure ? /Sylvester -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org