On Thursday, April 14, 2011 12:14 Brian K. White wrote:
On 4/14/2011 12:22 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:
On Thu 14 Apr 2011 at 11:34:25 (-0300 UTC) j debert wrote:
On 04/12/2011 03:34 PM, Insomniac wrote:
Philips webcams used to work fantastically in SuSE, all the way up to 10.3
IIRR. For some odd reason the kernel people or the suse people or whomever it was, decided to remove the part that made them work. You know, the 'fix what ain't broke' people.
The original pwc module maintainer eventually quit out of frustration with the kernel maintainers. This was covered on Slashdot at the time and the "discussion" was furious. It very much seemed as if the maintainer was being singled out by the kernel people and intentionally and specifically blocked from including his modules. The module's maintenance was taken up by another developer who stopped maintaining it not long after.
The original kernel module was in two parts, one of which was a proprietary binary which provided the larger format compression routines. The maintainer could not provide source until the NDA with Phillips expired, which occurred about a year after he quit. It's unfortunate the original maintainer quit: The original modules worked the best. They worked well up to OpenSuSE 10.3 but sometime before end-of-life, something changed enough to break the modules. Since then, nothing for these webcams has worked well, if at all.
jd
My sincere compliments to this unaceptable group of devs which are willing "to close an open software".
The result is that Microsoft will continue to be present massively as the "de facto" O.S. for millions of users.
Regards,
How about if you have to piss on someone blame the manufacturer who insisted on supplying a binary-only black mystery box?
Many people *did*. Who are you to ASSume no one did?
You can't fault anyone else for being uninterested in wasting their time and talents one such a dead end instead of working on more rewarding and forward looking products and projects.
funny how that "dead end" worked for a number of years until some morons at the kernel level decided to show that they're better than everyone else and screw over the guy who *DID* "waste his time" getting a *LOT* of Philips webcams working.
You also can't fault anyone for having the deeper understanding that something is not always better than nothing.
Yes, I can.
Having hardware that can't _possibly_ be made to work reliably and stable because the quality,
See two paragraphs above. It all 'worked' just fine, better, as a matter of fact, than most garbage I've seen nowadays. I've got a friend who refuses to go to Linux, and has spent way too much money on nice equipment, including things like new webcams. The pictures he sends me, taken with whatever model he's using at the time, have all sucked, compared to my old Philips...which worked wonderfully, to remind you.
Yes, it's true you don't always have a simple choice to use other hardware.
So, you finally came down off that high, white horse to the level of us peons. Thanks for nothing, your hypocrisy is duly noted.
Feel free to write a good driver that's all visible forward maintainable source if it matters so much to you.
IT WAS ALREADY DONE! You have a short-term memory problem, right?
Then when you get tired of that, or if you don't even start, we can all insult you for it.
Or, we can all let you know what an asshat you are for trying to bully your POV onto anyone who doesn't see things in the same light as yourself. What a dick. I bet you're a real blast at parties too...the one everyone likes to tell to FOAD after you've been there 10 minutes...or less. How's that for an 'insult' to YOU, you pin-headed minge. -- "Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived." -Isaac Asimov -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org