Hi: I have Suse 8.1 I have experienced periodic crashes at the KDE login when the wrong password is entered at the screensaver password entry dialog. Actually it isn't a crash. Not sure really. What happens is that the screen goes black and then X restarts, and the KDE user login appears. This wipes out all running applications, and is unacceptible for a system that is supposed to be stable. If I hadn't learned to save my work every minute I'd have lost a lot of work due to this and other KDE/X crashes. As a desktop OS, I have failures that result in the wiping out of all my applications quite a bit more often on Suse 8.1 Linux than I do on Windows 2000, though I do use Windows only about 10% of the amount I use Linux. But it stands at about 20 X/KDE failures caused by user actions in about 4 years, compared to 1 NT crash in the same time, and that occurred overnight when it was idling, so it may have been caused by a brownout. What might I do to to find whether this is a bug or not that I might be able to do something about? Here is what went into the /var/log/messages: Jun 4 09:18:00 mango vmnet-dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.230.128 to 00:50:56:ec:d0: 30 via vmnet1 Jun 4 09:20:03 mango kcheckpass[7098]: authentication failure for user crcarle [uid 504] Jun 4 09:20:08 mango kernel: mtrr: 0xe2000000,0x2000000 overlaps existing 0xe20 00000,0x1000000 Jun 4 09:20:08 mango kernel: klogd 1.4.1, ---------- state change ---------- Jun 4 09:20:08 mango kernel: Inspecting /boot/System.map-2.4.19-4GB Jun 4 09:20:08 mango kernel: Loaded 14220 symbols from /boot/System.map-2.4.19- 4GB. Jun 4 09:20:08 mango kernel: Symbols match kernel version 2.4.19. Jun 4 09:20:08 mango kernel: Loaded 1093 symbols from 42 modules. Jun 4 09:20:22 mango kdm[7101]: pam_unix2: session started for user crcarle, service xdm Thanks for input. -- ____________________________________ Christopher R. Carlen Principal Laser/Optical Technologist Sandia National Laboratories CA USA crcarle@sandia.gov