On 04/12/2018 10:41 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 08/04/18 09:14 PM, Simon Lees wrote:
You may for example have a new fancy device that wasn't originally supported in upstream kernel 4.12 but is supported in kernel 4.15, there is a reasonable chance that a SUSE engineer somewhere may have already ported support for that device into SUSE/openSUSE's version of kernel 4.12, so in this way and many others including security fixes just looking at the kernel number is wrong without also looking at which source "tree" the kernel has been built from. Since many of us don't read code and aren't interesting in pulling down the code and doing a 3-way comparison to see what in 4,15 has been back-ported by SUSE engineers into the SUSE 4.12 and how it differs from stock 4.12, where does SUSE document all these back-port, by date, high level description, change order number, testing and such?
Right now, it hardly seems worth it if I'm not under SLES/SLED contract and am using openSUSE so I'll stick to kernel:stable. George seems happy with that for his laptop.
Yes, I am happy with kernel:stable. I still have one thing I need to work on, a bug fix in my newer laptop for the touchpad, but I haven't had time to get everything reported on that yet. Hopefully this summer. In any case, all very interesting discussions. The flat tire analogy is interesting, but I think there are so many more complexities with a kernel than a tire that it probably doesn't really apply so well. I see the point in thinking that newer is better, but I think all the work suse does to make a good working kernel patched for the best possible coverage and minimal bugs, even if it is quite a bit older, probably works out best for the majority of people. And I expect that is what they are aiming for. -- George Box: 42.3 | KDE Plasma 5.8 | AMD Phenom IIX4 | 64 | 32GB Laptop #1: 42.3 | Gnome 3.20 | AMD FX 7TH GEN | 64 | 32GB Laptop #2: 42.3 | Gnome 3.20 | Core i5 | 64 | 8GB -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org