On 14.11.2007, at 17:16, Zhang Weiwu wrote:
Robert Lihm wrote:
On 14.11.2007, at 12:55, Billie Walsh wrote:
Kai Ponte wrote:
On Tuesday 13 November 2007 20:28, Zhang Weiwu wrote:
Dear all
My friend have finished courses of HTML and CSS (I'd like to say, she got it pretty well) and now is able to work out websites with gedit. She is starting her web design career. Now I am helping her to find out a webside design software for her Linux-based working environment.
kate - http://kate-editor.org/
I used it for filesite.org, perfectreign.com and several other commercial websites
I think they are wanting a graphical environment. AFAIK, there are only three. Quanta+, part of KDE [ KDE web dev package ], NVU, no longer under development, and KompoZer, kind of a carry on of NVU. There may be others, but I haven't found them. I'm sure someone will know of more. --To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I think, Quanta+ is like Dreamweaver. To be honest, I think WYSIWYG editors are just useable in small web projects with out any programming.
TRUE! That's what she decide to do for her career. She will have a lot of macrobusiness customers and she probably will always forward websites with programming requirements or big ones to other companies. Different people do have different needs (and seems we got a lot of big site developers on this list)
They are not bed for _designers_ to get in touch with HTML (etc.), but not more.
Yeah but she don't need more.
I recommend:
* VIM (e.g. GVIM) * Emacs * BlueFish. * Quanta+ * Komodo Edit (http://www.activestate.com/store/productdetail.aspx?prdGuid=20f4ed15-6684-41... )
On OS X I would recommend TextMate (http://macromates.com/). It's a shame, that there is no free editor out there which is so comfortable like TextMate!
Yeah gvim is my No.1 choice for my years of web development career. But after having enough touch with people doing different kinds of jobs and living different life style, I am now able to try think user requirements from a lot of different angels. I know what she needs, it is /not/ a text editor. Think about a soho web designer drink coffee with his customer when finishing a business, the customer is a tailor who run macrobusiness. The designer can drag and drop a piece to form a picture and ask the customer do you prefer this color and that shape? He also open gallery to help customer to choose a good background image from www.sxc.hu. If he does all these with a text editor, the customer have already finished several cups and gets either distracted or annoyed by a lot of magic code. The small web site designer simple cannot compete with those who use dreamweaver. These small customers are not the IT manager who draw grant charts and make table of deliverables before starting of a project. To do small web design business you can hardly go without a graphical designer. It's not only a lazy way to avoid learning HTML/CSS. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Yes, that's my experience, too. And that's why Dreamweaver is the de facto standard in all the media agencies! Normally the job of a designer is talking, scratching, pushing pixels (cooking & drinking coffee) ... well designing and not coding. Knowing to much about code can easily kills your creativity! I wish her a lot of luck and not so many stu*** clients ;) Robert --- Robert Lihm, Graphics Designer - Build Service Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - rlihm@suse.de ____________________________________________________________ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ____________________________________________________________ SUSE - a Novell business -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org