On Thursday 28 April 2005 08:52, Preston Crawford wrote:
On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 03:40 -0400, Allen wrote:
On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 09:48:17PM -0700, Preston Crawford wrote:
On Wed, 2005-04-27 at 22:07 -0400, Allen wrote:
On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 12:14:46PM -0700, Preston Crawford wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005, Kevanf1 wrote:
Sorry Mike but I think his problems started with a YOU update not an upgrade. YOU updates should really be stable.
Indeed. This is what happened. And they should be stable.
Preston
Before this gets out of hand:
Features, hardware support, and stability, are three things and none of them are related. If you want features to make it rival Windows, don't expect stability. If you want good hardware support, same thing, new hardwre can't work unless it isn't tested as much. If you spend all the time testing for bugs it doesn't get released.
SUSE is the only distro onn earth that I've ever seen mix these all together without being unstable.
Look at the most stable OSs in the World:
BSD
Solaris
AIX
Slackware
Now when is the last time you saw any of those have flashy new features?
SUSE can easily stay up, I've never had it crash and I use FTP, HTTP, and a million things on it and the box isn't even near the RAM it should have. It doesn't crash.
Firefox is a flash new browser, if you want stability instead, use Netcat.
Oh please.
#1 - This isn't the first time YOU has broken something recently. I had it break a kernel on my once recently because the mirror was bad. Ridiculous.
#2 - Firefox is a pretty basic piece of software. I don't see why they shouldn't test it before releasing it. I've been using Linux solely as a home OS for over 4 years and have rarely if ever had a problem with the web browser. Not on SuSE, at least.
No browser is basic, if you truely believe that, quit your day job, and buy a big calculator. That's one of the most retarded things I've ever seen on this list.
Oh come on. You know what I meant. I didn't mean basic like it's simple. I meant basic as in basic functionality to the distro. It's a basic part of any OS these days. It's highly important, commonly used, etc.
And that last reply you made, the guy said he didn't even update with YAST and you said "But it IS a SUSE problem"....*Sigh*.
Oh please.
Don't you understand what I'm trying to say? The bug is in Firefox. I get that. But SUSE should have some level of quality control. So in so far as they released untested and broken software it IS their problem. I pay them $80 per release so they can bundle and provide me with solid stable updates. If they fail to do this, that's their problem. There are hundreds of distros that are just slapped together where I can download the latest Firefox. Heck, I can do that on my own. But my time is valuable, so I pay SUSE so they only drop software like Firefox into YOU when it's stable and ready to go. If I'm doing the testing of all the software, why should I bother using SUSE again?
Preston
IF you want stable then can firefox if it aint stable stop whinging about it . i use Mozilla1.8a6 it is rock solid and has never crashed until i updated accroread soon sorted . I must admit it seems that 9.3 is something to avoid like it's got something nasty i have run suse now since 5.2 but think 9.2 is the plce to stay for a while . Also why on earth do you use YOU so much it completely frells things so often it is untrue learn to be a little more choosey about what you install dont do a windBloZe and just say yes to the lot look at it and see if you actually use what is bieng suggested i see many times where YOU wants to install stuff i aint got installed that would completely frell the system . NOTE ALL SOFTWARE IS BETA , That includes windBloZe (get it right thats ALPHA ) you want stable dont use a computer ever althou Linux beats the hell out of BloZe any day on all fronts . Pete . -- If Bill Gates had gotten LAID at High School do YOU think there would be a Microsoft ? Of course NOT ! You gotta spend a lot of time at your school Locker stuffing underware up your ass to think , I am going to take on the worlds Computer Industry -------:heard on Cyber Radio.:-------