On Friday, 10 February 2017 17:17:15 CET Bruce Ferrell wrote:
On 02/10/2017 02:19 PM, nicholas wrote:
And Roy Schestowitz is kind of a known troll who hates SUSE.
Ciao, Marcus
Is the report accurate? If so, does it matter if he hates SUSE?
1 - that opensuse news was hacked - yes its all over the internet since at least (CIO 07-02-2017) 2 - that it was hush hush - no [see 1] + techrights article dated 09-02-2017 + see richard brown interview 3 - the "a known troll who hates SUSE" comment makes no assertion as to the validity of the article. there is therefore no correspondence between "acurate and hates suse" so your question doesnt make any sense. 4 - does slander based on conjecture of a hypotheticle strike you as accurate? "If someone injected a back door inside SLED and SLES, SUSE would probably say not a thing, only belatedly removing it and then lying about the whole thing, just like Microsoft does".
did you even read the comment made, or the techrights article before you wrote this?
Yes, the Techrights article IS the one I saw of February 9, 2017. No, I did NOT see the breach mention on ANY OpenSUSE lists (I monitor several) and wondered and had it on my agenda to ask about it when I had a few moments.
Nicholas, since you're "simply a user", why so heated in both your responses to me and vehemence over all. I too am "just a SUSE user" since SUSE 7.x since before the stupid Novell/MS deal.
I'm also an IT professional with over 30 years experience. Modern standard operating practice is to publicly and officially acknowledge such breaches. Seeing an announcement on a third party site of a breach with NO announcements here, even if rapidly corrected, struck me as odd at best and possibly false.
The "heat" seen on these lists when the breach was asked about, starts looking like bunker mentality. And that raises the curiosity level even higher... Was the article inaccurate? Was it a troll? Why are official channels NOT making an announcement? All bringing credibility of all parties into question. So I asked... And got even MORE heat! So did others.
Marcus, I DO appreciate you taking the time to make the simple statement that it did happen, what happened and that no significant information was compromised. It's a thankless job.
my response is to the style, content and basis of your "arguments", - tying the simple fact of the attack to the "truth" of wider accusations without foundation given in techrights. (the article has zero journalistic credability) - your constant exaggerations. (who are the OTHERS who have recieved HEAT for asking questions?, a website DEFACEMENT is NOT a BREACH, saying my 2 messages are a "continuing effort to discount any comments" from suse) - your constant wink wink style accusations. my vehemence comes from a distinct dislike for unfounded deformations. you could have avoided this by presenting: a) direct questions to establish the facts (e.g. why was the story not published on mailing lists) b) your direct opinion on how the event should have been handled c) any accusations/denunciations based on facts and evidence (i dont count a shit throwing article by a known troll as evidence). i really dont want to waste any more time on this. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org