On 15/06/18 21:12, Per Jessen wrote:
There's probably not much to do about that - they are supplementary, how can the system know their priorities?
If the user is doing an update, and the package is newer, install the newer version. Subject to a switch or something, not as a global default. ISTM there's a split here. There is SLE, a very stable enterprise distro, and there is openSUSE Tumbleweed, a rolling-release distro. Making the defaults for both the same is perhaps not ideal...?
Yes, I agree. There is always a perfectly reasonable explanation, but from a pure user perspective, it's illogical.
Thank you. :-)
I get told it won't install upgrades *because* of vendor changes. I don't care. Just do it. No I do *not* want to go and edit a config file; I expect a command to do that.
Hmm, isn't that typical of the Linux environment though? If I want to change something basic, I open a config file with vi. Some applications also have commands for the same, postfix for instance, but most haven't.
With a rolling-release distro, updates are a daily task, no? So if there's a safe default, but one day, it's a small update of only a dozen packages, easy to check for safety by eye, then a one-off "install everything" switch would seem useful to me.
This isn't Leap we are talking about, I hope? If it's Tumbleweed, you asked for it. It is bleeding edge, BYOBA. (I made that up).
Bring Your Own... Bad Attitude? :-)
Generally, on Leap, zypper does not ask me (m)any questions, other then "are you sure?"
I'm currently using Tumbleweed on my desktop and Leap on my laptop.
But if I tried 4 different XML editors, and I want to remove them all, in Synaptic I just tick them, say remove, and the job's done. I can't do that at all in DNF and in YAST each one must be a separate operation, probably each involving confirming the individual removal of 20 submodules.
zypper rm ?
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