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All true, and good points :) I wasn't thinking so much specifically regarding this particular bash bug, but the broader issue of patches in general (heartbleed, et al.) I'd considered going with 11.4 evergreen when I did the server build, but at the time couldn't get it to work on my box for whatever reason; it would make it about halfway through booting off of the media (dvd|network|flash all the same) and then the box would totally freeze regardless of what fixes I attempted from Google, what hardware was/wasn't installed, etc., so I had to do 12.2 (which worked fine.) I've done a ton of customization to the box and have it running very sweetly now, and don't have a compelling reason to upgrade it to the new evergreen. It is mostly secured away from the nastier parts of the internet, so most patches aren't really necessary on it, but I was just curious what others were doing when they were in situations similar to mine. Chris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org