From: Michael Spartana <furryllama@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2023 20:45:23 -0500 Thanks Bob, I've used emacs for many years. I think I changed to xemacs because I thought it was for the graphical desktop. You appear to be right as emacs works well with the desktop. I still don't know why emacs was crashing in the rescue terminal, oh well, as long as one of them works. This one I got from the opensuse repositories figuring that was the best place to look. Thanks again, mike Emacs caught up to XEmacs in terms of GUIs a long time ago -- and then surpassed it. In particular, Emacs now does Unicode better [1], including bidirectional scripts, which probably means it has better font support. For grins, you could try "C-h h" (the "hello" page) in each implementation to see how many languages are demonstrated. (I notice I have fewer Asian fonts installed by default in 15.4 than in 15.3, but I do have the CJK fonts, and Hebrew and Arabic. For fun, try moving the cursor a character at a time through the Hebrew and Arabic lines.) -- Bob [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XEmacs