RE: Re: [suse-linux-s] install suse 8.0 and forget upgrades
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Hola... Disculpa por lo expresado; fui un poco brusco pero no fue mi intención... Precisamente lo dicho por ti en el final del texto es a lo que me refería.... Existen preguntas, incluso que yo he realizadas, muy tontas pero igual todos responden dando sugerencias o diciendo como se debe hacer. En fin para no armar más polémica retiro lo dicho y nuevamente me disculpo con las personas ofendidos. -----Mensaje original----- De: Jordi Soler (Camio) [mailto:camio.cat@virgin.net] Enviado el: martes, 05 de noviembre de 2002 14:22 Para: suse-linux-s@suse.com Asunto: Fwd: Re: [suse-linux-s] install suse 8.0 and forget upgrades Hi all, Sorry for writting in English, but I will give a reply of what I am doing this weekend. I will configure a new server from scratch. I have done a small list of tasks I will do, and I thing this is what Adagilson was asking more or less. However this is not the best way of doing a server, it is the first time I am going to build a server, so I will follow this list: Firewall Block everything except SSH to start with. Include FW_ROUTE, FW_Mascarate, so other computer can use the same Internet link. DHCP Server IP 192.168.0.254/24. Lease 1 day. Domain name: yourdomain.com SSH Versio 2 Squid Proxy for HTTP Mail Be able to get E-Mail to user@yourdomain.com DNS Make it possible for other machines on the internal network to resolve internal and external IP's only using the server as a DNS server. Apache Build HTTP server and HTTPS Samba Make it possible for Win machines to get remote units, and get authentificated. Webmail Build my own webmail, so I can check my E-Mail from anywhere/ MRTG To see the BW used by certain link. There are lots of things I don't know how to build yet, but this is why I joined the list. And now, get to your server, start building the services you want, and ask as many questions you want, but make sure you had look a bit before. Enjoy. On Tuesday 05 November 2002 16:37, Cesar Alberto Ramírez wrote:
Completamente de acuerdo Pablo,
es lógico que hay unas preguntas cuyas respuestas están dentro de las mismas MAN del Linux y no requerirían una respuesta de la lista, pero no debemos olvidar que nuestros Linux no son tan fáciles como el Guindos en algunos aspectos y que cada uno de nosotros tenemos inconvenientes con la distribución que usamos por eso recurrimos a ustedes que tienen cierta experiencia en el manejo de sistemas UNIX.
Hay que tener en cuenta que pueden existir varios PC con la misma distribución pero funcionan correctamente a la primera o de la misma manera en todos los PC.
Mil gracias a ustedes por hacer de esta lista un guía clara y entendible para nosotros los novatos.
CESAR ALBERTO RAMIREZ M.
-----Mensaje original----- De: Pablo Stella [SMTP:PStella@terminal6.com.ar] Enviado el: Martes, 05 de Noviembre de 2002 10:19 a.m. Para: suse-linux-s@suse.com Asunto: RE: [suse-linux-s] install suse 8.0 and forget upgrades
Elkin: Permítame disentir con Ud. Trabajo desde hace casi 10 años con Unix y menos de un año con Linux Suse 7.2. Sobre éste tenemos montado Oracle, el cual administro. No hago uso de firewall, ni proxy ni servidor Web, por lo que mis conocimientos al respecto son práctimente nulos. Me he encontrado con que buscando en la gran telaraña me he visto tapado por el volumen de información obtenido y he perdido bastante tiempo para lograr un objetivo y otras veces que he consultado a la lista y recibí orientación de la misma la solución la alcancé en pocas horas. Estoy de acuerdo en no contestar una consulta con prácticamente un mini-HOWTO pero a veces basta con una recomendación a una página o un par de comandos que sirvan de guía. Creo que en el fondo todos aceptamos que Linux a veces resulta un tanto críptico con sus mensajes de error y que algunos de ellos son muy particulares de cada instalación. Si la comunidad Linux espera crecer no podemos auyentar a quienes quieren integrarse. Si a veces uno nota que alguno hace demasiadas preguntas pero investiga poco o el nivel de las mismas es muy elemental y uno se siente algo enojado porque alguien haga ese tipo de preguntas basta con no responder, aunque esto resulte poco ético en una lista de distribución. Saludos a todos los amigos de la lista. Pablo
-----Mensaje original----- De: Elkin Cantillo [SMTP:ecantillo@isagen.com.co] Enviado el: Martes, 05 de Noviembre de 2002 11:53 a.m. Para: sitalopez; suse-linux-s@suse.com Asunto: RE: [suse-linux-s] install suse 8.0 and forget
upgrades
Ün poco duro, pero tienes razón lo más importante de la lista es
acudir a
ella cuando uno a mirado, investigado, gastado tiempo y no
encuentra la
solución.... Ahí es cuando esta lista se hace muy valiosa para nosotros..
Bueno esa es mi opinión y comparto un poco lo que dice sitalopez;
según su
firma creo que se llama Juan (JuAnArKo...)
-----Mensaje original----- De: sitalopez [mailto:sitalopez@hotmail.com] Enviado el: martes, 05 de noviembre de 2002 9:45 Para: suse-linux-s@suse.com Asunto: Re: [suse-linux-s] install suse 8.0 and forget upgrades
Ok, all the people of this list know about your interest in
learning linux
using SuSE/Linux. But you need a lot of knowledges in the
begining. Lists
are not people that ask, and people answer, and people ask, and
people
answer.
This is the last solution to find the answer of your actions when
you have
some troubles with knowledges or configuration of your machine or
your
devices, etc... but first people have read, have looked for, have investigated by themselves.
What are you asking are questions wich a person don´t know when
start
studing linux, and he tries to configure his system. Right, but
these
questions you can find on the web, on the suse web pages, on sindominio.net, barrapunto, slashdot, kde.org, aditel.org, bulmalug.net,
gnome.org,
debian.org, hispalinux.es, etc, etc, etc...
Why I´m telling you this?... because what you are asking is so
huge and is
so basic, so please, if you want to know something, try to know by yourself first of all. Day by day, week by week, read, read, read, spend
time in
front your computer, time, time, time.
But if you don´t find an answer you have, go to this list and ask.
In www.suse.com you have many information about linux, and, the
most
important, about how to configure your SuSE/Linux. Have a look and
have
fun!
JuAnArKo........
----- Original Message ----- From: "Adagilson B B da Silva"
To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [suse-linux-s] install suse 8.0 and forget upgrades thanks for your attention, Juan Hey, how could I change my KDE to portuguese? (i made an english
(us)
installation) so long a.
sitalopez escreveu:
Hi Adagilso, First of all, I was very surprised when I read your mail in
english,
but I
have been looking where are the suse-mailing lists in
Portugueis and
there
isn´t any list. :) Anyway let me tell you I recomend you to suscribe to some linux
list in
your
country. There´s no many different paquets from the 8.0 to 8.1. You can read (in english indeed) documentation in www.suse.com
about
the
newest version. And you decide.
JuAnArKo...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Adagilson B B da Silva"
To: Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 12:38 PM Subject: [suse-linux-s] install suse 8.0 and forget upgrades Hello my friends, I just Installed SuSE 8.0 and i want to know what are the most
important
upgrades I should do. Sorry, I don't know anything about linux: it's my first time. thanks for any help a.
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Hello everybody, it's past just two night since i've installed SuSE 8.0 at my home computer. Yeah, I want to know a lot and I have a lot to know. I don't care whether my question will be of interest to someone or not, if something is a trouble to me i will seek how solve it. Make youself sure, I'm searching across the net by answers (howtos, mini-howtos, guides, tutorials) as well posting messages in any lists I find it should have relevant answers (do you know what is "collective knowledge"?). My current state (newbie) doesn't give chance to predict what will hapen with any new implementation I will do, that's why i post question in the list for untill dumb question. May be it could be not so dumb for newbies are entering into Linux world. May be someone could have problems when he was trying to implement some new apps, updating desktop gui, or whatever task it was as newbie. So let people search, ask and have they own experiences if nobody wants to transfer them or waste its precious time helping another friends. sorry for hard words; thanks for your attention a. -- Adagilson Batista Bispo da Silva Bibliotecário FIOCRUZ-Centro de Pesquisa Ageu Magalhães Fone 81 3302-6524
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Er... have you noticed that this is the spanish speaking list? The english one is "suse-linux-e@suse.com". It produces perhaps a hundred emails per day, and an argument about what or what not should the list be used for would produce an endless thread with dozens of replies. As for your original question, upgrades, the program "yast" does automatic online upgrades (YOU); the important ones are the security ones. Just read the descriptions, and decide. Some may be large. If you are a beginner, there are also the suse manuals, on paper or on the CD, and some more books in pdf format (/usr/share/doc/*). Try "sushelp" (the life saving wheel icon in kde). -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson Adagilson B B da Silva wrote:
Hello everybody, it's past just two night since i've installed SuSE 8.0 at my home computer. Yeah, I want to know a lot and I have a lot to know. I don't care whether my question will be of interest to someone or not, if something is a trouble to me i will seek how solve it. Make youself sure, I'm searching across the net by answers (howtos, mini-howtos, guides, tutorials) as well posting messages in any lists I find it should have relevant answers (do you know what is "collective knowledge"?). My current state (newbie) doesn't give chance to predict what will hapen with any new implementation I will do, that's why i post question in the list for untill dumb question. May be it could be not so dumb for newbies are entering into Linux world. May be someone could have problems when he was trying to implement some new apps, updating desktop gui, or whatever task it was as newbie. So let people search, ask and have they own experiences if nobody wants to transfer them or waste its precious time helping another friends. sorry for hard words; thanks for your attention a.
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Adagilson B B da Silva
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Carlos E. R
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Elkin Cantillo