I have one of these: http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=23&products_id=1697& which used to work fine on suse 9.2, being detected as two 16-button joysticks. now, on suse 10.0 it doesn't work anymore, on two different machines, both running 2.6.13-15.11-default. all i see in dmesg is this: usb 1-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 usb 1-1: string descriptor 0 read error: -32 usb 1-1: string descriptor 0 read error: -32 usb 1-1: string descriptor 0 read error: -32 usb 1-1: string descriptor 0 read error: -71 usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 3 the disconnect is when i manually disconnect it after trying, of course. any hints for me? bye, MH -- gpg key fingerprint: 5F64 4C92 9B77 DE37 D184 C5F9 B013 44E7 27BD 763C