[opensuse-translation] Re: [opensuse-factory] 13.2 release schedule - related to i18n work
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-09-11 11:36, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2014-09-11 11:02, Stephan Kulow wrote:
On 11.09.2014 09:00, Carlos E. R. wrote:
When should we start the translations? At Beta or RC1? In other words, I do not see a translation freeze in the schedule, just a translation finish :-?
That's a task for a translation coordinator to define.
Ok, forwarded to translation mail list to ask who does that defining.
If your answer means that each language team defines the schedule, that's wrong, you did not understand my question, then. We need a string freeze, and that's the developers who stop developing, not the translators.
We also need further clarification for translation. Normally, we work on http://svn.opensuse.org/svn/opensuse-i18n/trunk/, because till 13.1 the http://svn.opensuse.org/svn/opensuse-i18n/openSUSE-13_1-Branch was created some time _after_ GM release, and trunk was under string freeze (the pots did not change, except if really needed). But I understand that you say that 13.2 is going to be separated from factory between beta and RC1. Thus the openSUSE-13_2-Branch (translation tree) has to be created before we translators can start work on it... - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar) - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlQRcd8ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VEgACbBdn8RP9tvbUsNvkc4sdry5wm Q8MAoI5jQGaCAfMKDMVyVLabSJ+F1J62 =D60B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-translation+owner@opensuse.org
"Carlos E. R." <carlos.e.r@opensuse.org> writes:
Normally, we work on http://svn.opensuse.org/svn/opensuse-i18n/trunk/, because till 13.1 the http://svn.opensuse.org/svn/opensuse-i18n/openSUSE-13_1-Branch was created some time _after_ GM release, and trunk was under string freeze (the pots did not change, except if really needed).
But I understand that you say that 13.2 is going to be separated from factory between beta and RC1. Thus the openSUSE-13_2-Branch (translation tree) has to be created before we translators can start work on it...
No, I think we can proceed as usual. openSUSE-13_1-Branch already exists, and we are on a pretty save side to use the trunk for 13.2 now. POTs did not change that much in trunk, because we did not explicitly ask for POT file updates. -- Karl Eichwalder SUSE LINUX Products GmbH R&D / Documentation Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-translation+owner@opensuse.org
2014-09-15 14:41 GMT+04:00 Karl Eichwalder <ke@suse.de>:
No, I think we can proceed as usual. openSUSE-13_1-Branch already exists, and we are on a pretty save side to use the trunk for 13.2 now. POTs did not change that much in trunk, because we did not explicitly ask for POT file updates. Right now YaST development for SLE12 and openSUSE happens in the same branch, so all the code is shared. String freeze for yast happened in July, so as the latest 50-pot commit from Lucas, so I believe we will not have any new pot-files for yast at least till SLE12 release.
Regards, Minton. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-translation+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/15/2014 12:52 PM, Alexander Melentev wrote:
2014-09-15 14:41 GMT+04:00 Karl Eichwalder <ke@suse.de>:
No, I think we can proceed as usual. openSUSE-13_1-Branch already exists, and we are on a pretty save side to use the trunk for 13.2 now. POTs did not change that much in trunk, because we did not explicitly ask for POT file updates. Right now YaST development for SLE12 and openSUSE happens in the same branch, so all the code is shared. String freeze for yast happened in July, so as the latest 50-pot commit from Lucas, so I believe we will not have any new pot-files for yast at least till SLE12 release.
Yast is in string freeze for SLE which means developers don't add new strings without a good reason. But in some situations it's unavoidable in order to fix some bug. So it's true that you can expect ALMOST no movement in Yast string, but still some strings can slip in now and then. Cheers. -- Ancor González Sosa openSUSE Team at SUSE Linux GmbH -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-translation+owner@opensuse.org
Ancor Gonzalez Sosa <ancor@suse.de> writes:
Yast is in string freeze for SLE which means developers don't add new strings without a good reason. But in some situations it's unavoidable in order to fix some bug. So it's true that you can expect ALMOST no movement in Yast string, but still some strings can slip in now and then.
Yes, thanks for confirmation. So we would either copy the POTs from SLE12 to trunk or ask Lukas to submit them directly. -- Karl Eichwalder SUSE LINUX Products GmbH R&D / Documentation Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-translation+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-09-15 12:41, Karl Eichwalder wrote:
"Carlos E. R." <> writes:
Normally, we work on http://svn.opensuse.org/svn/opensuse-i18n/trunk/, because till 13.1 the http://svn.opensuse.org/svn/opensuse-i18n/openSUSE-13_1-Branch was created some time _after_ GM release, and trunk was under string freeze (the pots did not change, except if really needed).
But I understand that you say that 13.2 is going to be separated from factory between beta and RC1. Thus the openSUSE-13_2-Branch (translation tree) has to be created before we translators can start work on it...
No, I think we can proceed as usual. openSUSE-13_1-Branch already exists, and we are on a pretty save side to use the trunk for 13.2 now.
So, you say we work on trunk now. Then, on 20141009 13.2 Stephan Kulow segregates 13.2 as a separate project, and factory goes ahead on its own route. Then we work... where? It is not only YaST, it is also 'lcn' and 'packages'. I don't see the sense on working on trunk, it is just a matter of days that both branches are segregated "upstream"... - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlQW11IACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XjKwCfWhtOjemDIIe4PV9vn8StfCJM e2oAn1g6jg3gefw8s1ucN9nHHl8Llhyx =JtAL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-translation+owner@opensuse.org
2014-09-15 9:11 GMT-03:00 Carlos E. R. <carlos.e.r@opensuse.org>:
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On 2014-09-15 12:41, Karl Eichwalder wrote:
"Carlos E. R." <> writes:
Normally, we work on http://svn.opensuse.org/svn/opensuse-i18n/trunk/, because till 13.1 the http://svn.opensuse.org/svn/opensuse-i18n/openSUSE-13_1-Branch was created some time _after_ GM release, and trunk was under string freeze (the pots did not change, except if really needed).
But I understand that you say that 13.2 is going to be separated from factory between beta and RC1. Thus the openSUSE-13_2-Branch (translation tree) has to be created before we translators can start work on it...
No, I think we can proceed as usual. openSUSE-13_1-Branch already exists, and we are on a pretty save side to use the trunk for 13.2 now.
So, you say we work on trunk now. Then, on 20141009 13.2 Stephan Kulow segregates 13.2 as a separate project, and factory goes ahead on its own route. Then we work... where?
It is not only YaST, it is also 'lcn' and 'packages'.
I don't see the sense on working on trunk, it is just a matter of days that both branches are segregated "upstream"...
- -- Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
Hi, If one wants/use the new product "Factory" and want it translated it yes makes sense from now on to work on trunk. Regards, Luiz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-translation+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-09-15 16:14, Luiz Fernando Ranghetti wrote:
If one wants/use the new product "Factory" and want it translated it yes makes sense from now on to work on trunk.
I will not volunteer to translate factory, sorry. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlQXA/sACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UZaACeJRrkfcLqilUsue0YOJZgWm1D zhUAnjB8u0gZsCB7MimFJ/Fr9G5jB8mB =23rO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-translation+owner@opensuse.org
participants (5)
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Alexander Melentev
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Ancor Gonzalez Sosa
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Carlos E. R.
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Karl Eichwalder
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Luiz Fernando Ranghetti