[opensuse-translation] License problem
Hi, I noticed pretty late that the license for our live cds is not what we want it to be. Now we change the english license and I can also change the german one, but I lack an update for license.cs.txt license.es.txt license.fr.txt license.hu.txt license.it.txt license.ja_JP.txt license.pt_BR.txt license.ru.txt license.sk.txt license.zh_CN.txt license.zh_TW.txt It's not really _that_ problematic as the english license is the only one that counts anyway, but it would be great if some could send me a translated version of the diff below. I basically only need the two lines with a guidance what other lines to remove. You may make and use unlimited copies of the Software within your Organization. With respect to any version containing the letters "OSS" in -the product name (with the exception of those versions containing the -letters "NON-OSS" in their product names), whereby the product name is -defined in the file "content" in the uppermost directory of the product, You +the product name, whereby the product name is +defined in first line of this Agreement, You may make and distribute unlimited copies of the Software outside Your organization. You may make and distribute unlimited modified copies outside Your organization provided You remove all Novell trademarks, trade dress, Greetings, Stephan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help@opensuse.org
El Domingo 08 Junio 2008, Stephan Kulow escribió:
Hi,
I noticed pretty late that the license for our live cds is not what we want it to be. Now we change the english license and I can also change the german one, but I lack an update for
license.cs.txt license.es.txt license.fr.txt license.hu.txt license.it.txt license.ja_JP.txt license.pt_BR.txt license.ru.txt license.sk.txt license.zh_CN.txt license.zh_TW.txt
It's not really _that_ problematic as the english license is the only one that counts anyway, but it would be great if some could send me a translated version of the diff below. I basically only need the two lines with a guidance what other lines to remove.
You may make and use unlimited copies of the Software within your Organization. With respect to any version containing the letters "OSS" in -the product name (with the exception of those versions containing the -letters "NON-OSS" in their product names), whereby the product name is -defined in the file "content" in the uppermost directory of the product,You +the product name, whereby the product name is +defined in first line of this Agreement, You may make and distribute unlimited copies of the Software outside Your organization. You may make and distribute unlimited modified copies outside Your organization provided You remove all Novell trademarks, trade dress,
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Puede realizar y hacer uso de un número ilimitado de copias del Software dentro de su organización. Con respecto a cualquier versión que contenga las letras "OSS" en el nombre de producto, +siendo el nombre de producto el definido en la primera línea de este acuerdo, puede realizar y hacer uso de un número ilimitado de copias del Software fuera de su organización. Puede realizar y hacer uso de un número ilimitado de copias modificadas fuera de su organización siempre que elimine todas las marcas comerciales, imágenes de marca y logotipos de Novell de todas y cada una de las copias modificadas del Software. El término Organización -- Don't see the world through a window, be open{source}minded, and be free :-) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help@opensuse.org
Am Sonntag, 8. Juni 2008 schrieb Miguel Angel Alvarez:
El Domingo 08 Junio 2008, Stephan Kulow escribió:
Hi,
I noticed pretty late that the license for our live cds is not what we want it to be. Now we change the english license and I can also change the german one, but I lack an update for
license.cs.txt license.es.txt license.fr.txt license.hu.txt license.it.txt license.ja_JP.txt license.pt_BR.txt license.ru.txt license.sk.txt license.zh_CN.txt license.zh_TW.txt
It's not really _that_ problematic as the english license is the only one that counts anyway, but it would be great if some could send me a translated version of the diff below. I basically only need the two lines with a guidance what other lines to remove.
You may make and use unlimited copies of the Software within your Organization. With respect to any version containing the letters "OSS" in -the product name (with the exception of those versions containing the -letters "NON-OSS" in their product names), whereby the product name is -defined in the file "content" in the uppermost directory of the product,You +the product name, whereby the product name is +defined in first line of this Agreement, You may make and distribute unlimited copies of the Software outside Your organization. You may make and distribute unlimited modified copies outside Your organization provided You remove all Novell trademarks, trade dress,
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Puede realizar y hacer uso de un número ilimitado de copias del Software dentro de su organización. Con respecto a cualquier versión que contenga las letras "OSS" en el nombre de producto, +siendo el nombre de producto el definido en la primera línea de este acuerdo, puede realizar y hacer uso de un número ilimitado de copias del Software fuera de su organización. Puede realizar y hacer uso de un número ilimitado de copias modificadas fuera de su organización siempre que elimine todas las marcas comerciales, imágenes de marca y logotipos de Novell de todas y cada una de las copias modificadas del Software. El término Organización
Hmm, that looks like the 10.3 license was wrong in spanish too - as it did not talk about "content" :) Greetings, Stephan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help@opensuse.org
Hi coolo, The pt_BR version: Você pode fazer e usar cópias ilimitadas do Software em sua Organização. Em relação a qualquer versão contendo as letras "OSS" no nome do produto (com exceção daquelas versões contendo as letras "NON-OSS" no nome do produto), sendo que o nome do produto é definido no arquivo "content" no diretório raiz do produto, você +o nome do produto, sendo que o nome do produto é definido na primeira linha do presente Acordo, você pode fazer e distribuir cópias ilimitadas do Software fora de sua organização. Você pode fazer e distribuir cópias ilimitadas modificadas fora de sua organização desde você remova todas as marcas registradas e marcas comerciais da Novell. 2008/6/8 Stephan Kulow <coolo@suse.de>:
Am Sonntag, 8. Juni 2008 schrieb Miguel Angel Alvarez:
El Domingo 08 Junio 2008, Stephan Kulow escribió:
Hi,
I noticed pretty late that the license for our live cds is not what we want it to be. Now we change the english license and I can also change the german one, but I lack an update for
license.cs.txt license.es.txt license.fr.txt license.hu.txt license.it.txt license.ja_JP.txt license.pt_BR.txt license.ru.txt license.sk.txt license.zh_CN.txt license.zh_TW.txt
It's not really _that_ problematic as the english license is the only one that counts anyway, but it would be great if some could send me a translated version of the diff below. I basically only need the two lines with a guidance what other lines to remove.
You may make and use unlimited copies of the Software within your Organization. With respect to any version containing the letters "OSS" in -the product name (with the exception of those versions containing the -letters "NON-OSS" in their product names), whereby the product name is -defined in the file "content" in the uppermost directory of the product,You +the product name, whereby the product name is +defined in first line of this Agreement, You may make and distribute unlimited copies of the Software outside Your organization. You may make and distribute unlimited modified copies outside Your organization provided You remove all Novell trademarks, trade dress,
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Puede realizar y hacer uso de un número ilimitado de copias del Software dentro de su organización. Con respecto a cualquier versión que contenga las letras "OSS" en el nombre de producto, +siendo el nombre de producto el definido en la primera línea de este acuerdo, puede realizar y hacer uso de un número ilimitado de copias del Software fuera de su organización. Puede realizar y hacer uso de un número ilimitado de copias modificadas fuera de su organización siempre que elimine todas las marcas comerciales, imágenes de marca y logotipos de Novell de todas y cada una de las copias modificadas del Software. El término Organización
Hmm, that looks like the 10.3 license was wrong in spanish too - as it did not talk about "content" :)
Greetings, Stephan
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Am Sonntag, 8. Juni 2008 schrieb ¡ElCheVive!:
Hi coolo,
The pt_BR version:
Você pode fazer e usar cópias ilimitadas do Software em sua Organização. Em relação a qualquer versão contendo as letras "OSS" no nome do produto (com exceção daquelas versões contendo as letras "NON-OSS" no nome do produto), sendo que o nome do produto é definido no arquivo "content" no diretório raiz do produto, você +o nome do produto, sendo que o nome do produto é definido na primeira linha do presente Acordo, você pode fazer e distribuir cópias ilimitadas do Software fora de sua organização. Você pode fazer e distribuir cópias ilimitadas modificadas fora de sua organização desde você remova todas as marcas registradas e marcas comerciais da Novell.
Hmm, this looks wrong. If it still talks about NON-OSS and "content", then it's still having the bug I want to fix. Please note the lines starting with - in my diff. The full english text is this: You may make and use unlimited copies of the Software within your Organization. With respect to any version containing the letters "OSS" in the product name, whereby the product name is defined in first line of this Agreement, You may make and distribute unlimited copies of the Software outside Your Greetings, Stephan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help@opensuse.org
Ops.....Sorry for the misundestood.... The correct version: Você pode fazer e usar cópias ilimitadas do Software em sua Organização. Em relação a qualquer versão contendo as letras "OSS" no nome do produto, +sendo que o nome do produto é definido na primeira linha do presente Acordo, você pode fazer e distribuir cópias ilimitadas do Software fora de sua organização. Você pode fazer e distribuir cópias ilimitadas modificadas fora de sua organização desde você remova todas as marcas registradas e marcas comerciais da Novell. regards, Luiz Fernando Ranghetti 2008/6/9 Stephan Kulow <coolo@suse.de>:
Am Sonntag, 8. Juni 2008 schrieb ¡ElCheVive!:
Hi coolo,
The pt_BR version:
Você pode fazer e usar cópias ilimitadas do Software em sua Organização. Em relação a qualquer versão contendo as letras "OSS" no nome do produto (com exceção daquelas versões contendo as letras "NON-OSS" no nome do produto), sendo que o nome do produto é definido no arquivo "content" no diretório raiz do produto, você +o nome do produto, sendo que o nome do produto é definido na primeira linha do presente Acordo, você pode fazer e distribuir cópias ilimitadas do Software fora de sua organização. Você pode fazer e distribuir cópias ilimitadas modificadas fora de sua organização desde você remova todas as marcas registradas e marcas comerciais da Novell.
Hmm, this looks wrong. If it still talks about NON-OSS and "content", then it's still having the bug I want to fix. Please note the lines starting with - in my diff.
The full english text is this:
You may make and use unlimited copies of the Software within your Organization. With respect to any version containing the letters "OSS" in the product name, whereby the product name is defined in first line of this Agreement, You may make and distribute unlimited copies of the Software outside Your
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2008-06-08 at 09:35 +0200, Stephan Kulow wrote:
I noticed pretty late that the license for our live cds is not what we want it to be. Now we change the english license and I can also change the german one, but I lack an update for
The understanding was that licenses were to be translated be translators hired by Novell, for legal reasons, and not to be translated by amateurs. :-? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIS7tVtTMYHG2NR9URAkhwAJ4n0bqScr6NGMF3YFXvXTX7PDcnQACffQee B53DrkJpIZF0wcXqbGYNlJg= =y/8/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help@opensuse.org
Am Sonntag, 8. Juni 2008 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
The Sunday 2008-06-08 at 09:35 +0200, Stephan Kulow wrote:
I noticed pretty late that the license for our live cds is not what we want it to be. Now we change the english license and I can also change the german one, but I lack an update for
The understanding was that licenses were to be translated be translators hired by Novell, for legal reasons, and not to be translated by amateurs.
Yeah, that's why I only ask you to translate the diff. The translations have no legal implication anyway. Greetings, Stephan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help@opensuse.org
The Italian translation follows: E' possibile utilizzare un numero illimitato di copie del Software all'interno della Vostra Organizzazione. In riferimento a ciascuna versione contenente le letter "OSS" nel -nome del prodotto (con l'eccezione di quelle versioni contenenti le -lettere "NON-OSS" nel loro nome del prodotto), dove il nome del prodotto è -definito nel file "content" nella directory principale del prodotto, +il nome del prodotto, dove il nome del prodotto è +definito nella prima riga di questo Accordo, è possibile produrre e distribuire un numero illimitato di copie del Software al di fuori della Vostra organizzazione, a condizione che si rimuovano tutti i marchi registrati di Novell, la veste commerciale, Regards, Alberto Il giorno dom, 08/06/2008 alle 09.35 +0200, Stephan Kulow ha scritto:
Hi,
I noticed pretty late that the license for our live cds is not what we want it to be. Now we change the english license and I can also change the german one, but I lack an update for
license.cs.txt license.es.txt license.fr.txt license.hu.txt license.it.txt license.ja_JP.txt license.pt_BR.txt license.ru.txt license.sk.txt license.zh_CN.txt license.zh_TW.txt
It's not really _that_ problematic as the english license is the only one that counts anyway, but it would be great if some could send me a translated version of the diff below. I basically only need the two lines with a guidance what other lines to remove.
You may make and use unlimited copies of the Software within your Organization. With respect to any version containing the letters "OSS" in -the product name (with the exception of those versions containing the -letters "NON-OSS" in their product names), whereby the product name is -defined in the file "content" in the uppermost directory of the product, You +the product name, whereby the product name is +defined in first line of this Agreement, You may make and distribute unlimited copies of the Software outside Your organization. You may make and distribute unlimited modified copies outside Your organization provided You remove all Novell trademarks, trade dress,
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Hi Stephan, In Japanese translation, there was no appropriate sentences like this;
(with the exception of those versions containing the letters "NON-OSS" in their product names), whereby the product name is defined in the file "content" in the uppermost directory of the product,
I think the Japanese version is a little outdated thing. Anyway, I've just added "whereby" ... "Agreement" as follows; (Note: UTF-8 encoded) -とができます。製品名に「OSS」という文字を含むすべてのバージョンにつ +とができます。製品名 (この文書の冒頭に記されています) に「OSS」という +文字を含むすべてのバージョンにつ Thanks, -- Yasuhiko Kamata E-mail: belphegor@belbel.or.jp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help@opensuse.org
Am Montag 09 Juni 2008 schrieb Yasuhiko Kamata:
Hi Stephan,
In Japanese translation, there was no appropriate sentences like this;
(with the exception of those versions containing the letters "NON-OSS" in their product names), whereby the product name is defined in the file "content" in the uppermost directory of the product,
I think the Japanese version is a little outdated thing.
Then we better ignore it all together. I can also remove it - but it's usually good font test to have so much japanse on the screen :) Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help@opensuse.org
Hi Stephan,
I think the Japanese version is a little outdated thing.
Then we better ignore it all together. I can also remove it - but it's usually good font test to have so much japanse on the screen :)
I think that the Japanese version should stay exist and updated, too. I'll contact with Novell Japan and ask them (about updating). So please put the Japanese version on CD with the diff applied. I'll tell you later about the result of talking with Novell Japan. Thanks and best regards, -- Yasuhiko Kamata E-mail: belphegor@belbel.or.jp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help@opensuse.org
Hi Stephan, As I told before, I've finished working about the Japanese version of license text. This translation was already verified with a legal affairs of Novell Japan. So please update the license text on the media (for openSUSE 11.1). Thanks, -- Yasuhiko Kamata E-mail: belphegor@belbel.or.jp
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Stephan Kulow <coolo@suse.de> wrote:
It's not really _that_ problematic as the english license is the only one that counts anyway, but it would be great if some could send me a translated version of the diff below. I basically only need the two lines with a guidance what other lines to remove.
You may make and use unlimited copies of the Software within your Organization. With respect to any version containing the letters "OSS" in -the product name (with the exception of those versions containing the -letters "NON-OSS" in their product names), whereby the product name is -defined in the file "content" in the uppermost directory of the product, You +the product name, whereby the product name is +defined in first line of this Agreement, You may make and distribute unlimited copies of the Software outside Your organization. You may make and distribute unlimited modified copies outside Your organization provided You remove all Novell trademarks, trade dress,
Hello. What I see on the 11.0 media in EULA.txt file is the part which is marked to be removed in the diff output above. That part wasn't in 10.3 EULA text. Haven't you accidentally run the diff on the files in reversed sequence ? Regards Ladislav. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag 19 Juni 2008 schrieb Ladislav Michnovič:
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Stephan Kulow <coolo@suse.de> wrote:
It's not really _that_ problematic as the english license is the only one that counts anyway, but it would be great if some could send me a translated version of the diff below. I basically only need the two lines with a guidance what other lines to remove.
You may make and use unlimited copies of the Software within your Organization. With respect to any version containing the letters "OSS" in -the product name (with the exception of those versions containing the -letters "NON-OSS" in their product names), whereby the product name is -defined in the file "content" in the uppermost directory of the product, You +the product name, whereby the product name is +defined in first line of this Agreement, You may make and distribute unlimited copies of the Software outside Your organization. You may make and distribute unlimited modified copies outside Your organization provided You remove all Novell trademarks, trade dress,
Hello. What I see on the 11.0 media in EULA.txt file is the part which is marked to be removed in the diff output above. That part wasn't in 10.3 EULA text. Haven't you accidentally run the diff on the files in reversed sequence ? You look on the DVD, the EULA change affected only the live CDs.
Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Stephan Kulow <coolo@suse.de> wrote:
Hello. What I see on the 11.0 media in EULA.txt file is the part which is marked to be removed in the diff output above. That part wasn't in 10.3 EULA text. Haven't you accidentally run the diff on the files in reversed sequence ? You look on the DVD, the EULA change affected only the live CDs.
Yes, I see. I found license.tar.gz tarball on the DVD. I don't see tarball with Licenses on LiveCD medium. How is displaying of translated License handled on LiveCD? I would guess there is no such option. The sk and cs License text on DVD media lacks the sentence about "NONOSS" (which is in the diff output), so they are not up-to-date. Probably other languages as well. Is it possible to translate the sentence by someone who is not a lawyer, for example me? If yes, then Bugzilla report could be filed. Regards Ladislav. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 19. Juni 2008 schrieb Ladislav Michnovič:
If yes, then Bugzilla report could be filed.
We hope to get another license agreement in the future anyway. Greetings, Stephan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Stephan Kulow <coolo@suse.de> wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 19. Juni 2008 schrieb Ladislav Michnovič:
If yes, then Bugzilla report could be filed.
I found this bnc#400795 regards the problem.
We hope to get another license agreement in the future anyway.
That's great. We really need it. See http://news.slashdot.org/news/08/06/19/1834219.shtml
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