Re: [opensuse-translation] croatian translation
Hi Daniel,
I looked the Bosnian .po files found via http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Localization_Teams link for statistics ( http://i18n.opensuse.org/stats/bs/ ) and thought that is used automatic translation, because there was a lot to translate and also a lot of translations that make no sense. Than some mail (I can't locate it now) shed a little light on it.
If program developer changes program, in the .po file it will be added comment #, fuzzy
Example: suse-i18n/trunk/yast/bs/po/base.bs.po #, fuzzy msgid "Print the help for this module" msgstr "Nema opcija za ovaj modul"
As you can see in the time translation was done (16.07.2003) there was no options for help, and translation is stating that. Now there is help and translation looks like a joke "No options for this module".
There is more fun in the same file: #, fuzzy msgid "Manually" msgstr "Managva"
The message code that is now used for message Manually, was before country selection code for Managua and it was translated correctly. I hope that this helped.
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Hi Rajko, Yeah alongside of all the examples stated in your above message, i have encountered many incorrect statements/translations (or at least what i think of as incorrect), for isntance (ill improvise, because i dont have the actual examples with me at this moment to present as a showcase): msgid "The location of the file is /etc/sysconfig/keyboard" msgstr "Lokacija datoteke je /etc/sysconfig/tipkovnica" Why? Now lets look at this from users perspective (of course assuming user does not handle or handles a foreign language poorly), user of the language will naturally look for the location of the keyboard file in /etc/sysconfig/tipkovnica, while the actual location will be /etc/sysconfig/keyboard (or are we translating complete FHS structure to local languages, afaik i dont think so). The second example would be blatant attempt in translating directories linux FHS movement named as they are, for instance: / becomes korijenska ? Why ? /boot becomes /ucitavacka ? Why ? Why would someone sane and clearminded, well person with at least some time spent using linux operating system even think about direct translation of these directories and/or files as stated in above example(s). Or: msgid "/dev/cdrom is usually a symlink from /dev/cdroms/cdrom0" msgstr "IDE disk nije naden na sistemu" How can this be, is that not an automated attempt of transaltion or am i wrong ? I am not trying to blame someone here, im just saying that these transaltions do no good to the localization effort/movement at all. There are many, many similar examples like that that ive found, so now ie lost quite big amount of time reviewing and correcting these in my honest opinion absurd translations. Regards, Daniel Radetic --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help@opensuse.org
Lørdag 16 september 2006 18:40, skrev drade@boobah.info:
There are many, many similar examples like that that ive found, so now ie lost quite big amount of time reviewing and correcting these
Been there :). When I first started translating SUSE into my language a couple of years ago I soon decided that the only sensible approach was to start from scratch and ignore all exisisting translations. In my case the problem was not that untranslatables were translated, rather an abundance of typos and non-idiomatic general language - and as I also translate for a living I have learned that it is much quicker to translate from scratch than proof reading texts if the proof reading involves revision of almost every segment. -- Olav http://home.online.no/~olav.pet/current_view.jpg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help@opensuse.org
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