Re: [opensuse-testing] NUI - France would like to test SLE 11
On the whole Opensuse / SLED topic, what are the chances of adjustment for provisioning of an equally stable opensuse distro? I love OpenSuSE but I used SLED10 extensively until it got too outdated for my hardware simply because of the awesome stability. There's a definate difference even in the pre Service Pack release between SLED and the OpenSuSE version in my opinion. So, what is the wider opensuse team doing to aim for a more stable OS? I'm not saying OpenSuSE is unstable, but it does tend to be a bit hit and miss, (though it's a lot stabler since you came on board Andreas :)) Is there a place for serious discussion on the future stability of this product and ways we can help improve it? Or am I barking up the wrong tree here? Thanks! Quentin
Andreas Jaeger
09/16/08 7:52 PM >>> "Jimmy PIERRE" writes:
Cheers,
Jimmy, please read again my mail from yesterday. I'm not asking for companies to step up but give individuals the option. If NUI wants to test, please use your official Novell contacts for this, this needs to be routed differentely, Thanks, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, aj@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Quentin Jackson wrote:
On the whole Opensuse / SLED topic, what are the chances of adjustment for provisioning of an equally stable opensuse distro? I love OpenSuSE but I used SLED10 extensively until it got too outdated for my hardware simply because of the awesome stability. There's a definate difference even in the pre Service Pack release between SLED and the OpenSuSE version in my opinion.
I tend to agree, but I really like having my customer's on SLED and SLES. They were previous SCO OS's and they do not like to upgrade/change very often so the SLES and SLED are really good. The problem is that SLED seems to not be updated soon enough. I tried to replace a few vista machines with SLED and was unable to because the new HW would not work with SLED. I now have them dual booting to openSUSE 11.0 and vista, but they need a longer more reliable option. I would really be hesitant putting openSUSE in the corperate offices because of the 2 year cycle. The do not like to update very often. They like their UNIX/Linux to just run and not have to deal with it.
So, what is the wider opensuse team doing to aim for a more stable OS? I'm not saying OpenSuSE is unstable, but it does tend to be a bit hit and miss, (though it's a lot stabler since you came on board Andreas :))
Is there a place for serious discussion on the future stability of this product and ways we can help improve it? Or am I barking up the wrong tree here?
I am not sure where the best discussion for this should be, but given that
it was brought up here, I really felt the need to speak up about it as
well.
Thanks,
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Boyd Gerber
"Quentin Jackson"
On the whole Opensuse / SLED topic, what are the chances of adjustment for provisioning of an equally stable opensuse distro? I love OpenSuSE but I used SLED10 extensively until it got too outdated for my hardware simply because of the awesome stability. There's a definate difference even in the pre Service Pack release between SLED and the OpenSuSE version in my opinion.
We have increased the beta phase in the last products already to some extend. But what I'm seeing is that people test very late in the game and then it's difficult to fix something. On the other hand, SLED goes to a far longer beta cycle with a larger beta program - to get it that stable ;)
So, what is the wider opensuse team doing to aim for a more stable OS?
IMHO the things the items where most help by everybody is needed are: * early testing with good bugreports in bugzilla.novell.com * help in bug triage so that the engineers can work on real bugs * fixing bugs
I'm not saying OpenSuSE is unstable, but it does tend to be a bit hit and miss, (though it's a lot stabler since you came on board Andreas :))
Is there a place for serious discussion on the future stability of this product and ways we can help improve it? Or am I barking up the wrong tree here?
opensuse-project might be better - or opensuse-factory, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, aj@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
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