Linux on new hardware Asus Motherboards w/ AMD graphics?
Hi all, I'm close to a needed workstation hardware upgrade and consider the following two, new interesting budget motherboards from Asus. IMO this list contains some noticeable key features: Asus M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3: AM3/X3, ATI Radeon HD 4250, SATA-600 (RAID)/eSATA-port, HDMI, Firewire Asus M4A89GTD PRO/USB3: AM3/X3, ATI Radeon HD 4290, SATA-600 (RAID)/eSATA-port, HDMI, Firewire The basic SUSE Linux compatibility looks ok according to one comment found in this post http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-help-here/hardware/437090-asus-mother... What concern me is if the Linux drivers for the ATI graphics really are so bad that full HD video at 1920x1080p hardly is possible to decode and playback on the integrated 4250/4290? Any comments/experiences to this? Reference articles AMD Radeon HD 4290 On Linux http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_hd4290&num=1 AMD Radeon HD 4250 880G On Linux http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_radeon_hd4250&num=1 Rgds, Terje J. Hanssen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
On 11/21/2010 04:57 PM, Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
Hi all,
I'm close to a needed workstation hardware upgrade and consider the following two, new interesting budget motherboards from Asus. IMO this list contains some noticeable key features:
Asus M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3: AM3/X3, ATI Radeon HD 4250, SATA-600 (RAID)/eSATA-port, HDMI, Firewire Asus M4A89GTD PRO/USB3: AM3/X3, ATI Radeon HD 4290, SATA-600 (RAID)/eSATA-port, HDMI, Firewire
The basic SUSE Linux compatibility looks ok according to one comment found in this post http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-help-here/hardware/437090-asus-mother...
What concern me is if the Linux drivers for the ATI graphics really are so bad that full HD video at 1920x1080p hardly is possible to decode and playback on the integrated 4250/4290?
Any comments/experiences to this?
Reference articles AMD Radeon HD 4290 On Linux http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_hd4290&num=1 AMD Radeon HD 4250 880G On Linux http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_radeon_hd4250&num=1
Rgds, Terje J. Hanssen
Hi Terje. I didn't test the asus, but the gigabyte counter part FX890 with a HD4290 work quite well. About the HD4290 I'm pretty sure decoding h264 in full hd res wouldn't be possible. but the fglrx work in that case. For standard effect (3D) desktop the radeon do something honest. Perhaps the new release in kernel & xorg will give better result. -- Bruno Friedmann (irc:tigerfoot) Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member User www.ioda.net/r/osu Blog www.ioda.net/r/blog fsfe fellowship www.fsfe.org GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 vcard : http://it.ioda-net.ch/ioda-net.vcf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
Den 21. nov. 2010 20:09, skrev Bruno Friedmann:
On 11/21/2010 04:57 PM, Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
Hi all,
I'm close to a needed workstation hardware upgrade and consider the following two, new interesting budget motherboards from Asus. IMO this list contains some noticeable key features:
Asus M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3: AM3/X3, ATI Radeon HD 4250, SATA-600 (RAID)/eSATA-port, HDMI, Firewire Asus M4A89GTD PRO/USB3: AM3/X3, ATI Radeon HD 4290, SATA-600 (RAID)/eSATA-port, HDMI, Firewire
The basic SUSE Linux compatibility looks ok according to one comment found in this post http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-help-here/hardware/437090-asus-mother...
What concern me is if the Linux drivers for the ATI graphics really are so bad that full HD video at 1920x1080p hardly is possible to decode and playback on the integrated 4250/4290?
Any comments/experiences to this?
Reference articles AMD Radeon HD 4290 On Linux http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_hd4290&num=1 AMD Radeon HD 4250 880G On Linux http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_radeon_hd4250&num=1
Rgds, Terje J. Hanssen
Hi Terje.
I didn't test the asus, but the gigabyte counter part FX890 with a HD4290 work quite well.
About the HD4290 I'm pretty sure decoding h264 in full hd res wouldn't be possible. but the fglrx work in that case. For standard effect (3D) desktop the radeon do something honest. Perhaps the new release in kernel& xorg will give better result.
That's hold for me. I think there are so much powerful goodies on that boards to build a budget media center and video editing workstation, that I've decided to go for it. Indeed I also have some lower editing demands (HDV 10980i, M2T), and I also plan to add a typical BMD Intensity PCIe or USB3 capture equipment later (still Linux lacks the needed isocronous transfer for USB3) And if adding a more powerful discrete graphical board later, can both Nvidia and ATI work w/o HD42xx ? Thanks, Terje J. Hanssen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
On 11/21/2010 09:19 PM, Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
Den 21. nov. 2010 20:09, skrev Bruno Friedmann:
On 11/21/2010 04:57 PM, Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
Hi all,
I'm close to a needed workstation hardware upgrade and consider the following two, new interesting budget motherboards from Asus. IMO this list contains some noticeable key features:
Asus M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3: AM3/X3, ATI Radeon HD 4250, SATA-600 (RAID)/eSATA-port, HDMI, Firewire Asus M4A89GTD PRO/USB3: AM3/X3, ATI Radeon HD 4290, SATA-600 (RAID)/eSATA-port, HDMI, Firewire
The basic SUSE Linux compatibility looks ok according to one comment found in this post http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-help-here/hardware/437090-asus-mother...
What concern me is if the Linux drivers for the ATI graphics really are so bad that full HD video at 1920x1080p hardly is possible to decode and playback on the integrated 4250/4290?
Any comments/experiences to this?
Reference articles AMD Radeon HD 4290 On Linux http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_hd4290&num=1 AMD Radeon HD 4250 880G On Linux http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_radeon_hd4250&num=1
Rgds, Terje J. Hanssen
Hi Terje.
I didn't test the asus, but the gigabyte counter part FX890 with a HD4290 work quite well.
About the HD4290 I'm pretty sure decoding h264 in full hd res wouldn't be possible. but the fglrx work in that case. For standard effect (3D) desktop the radeon do something honest. Perhaps the new release in kernel& xorg will give better result.
That's hold for me. I think there are so much powerful goodies on that boards to build a budget media center and video editing workstation, that I've decided to go for it. Indeed I also have some lower editing demands (HDV 10980i, M2T), and I also plan to add a typical BMD Intensity PCIe or USB3 capture equipment later (still Linux lacks the needed isocronous transfer for USB3)
And if adding a more powerful discrete graphical board later, can both Nvidia and ATI work w/o HD42xx ?
Thanks, Terje J. Hanssen
Actually, one customer build it's server based on that hardware with Phenon II 1090T X6. We put 8 2TB Western digital in raid6 with an adaptec controler 5805z and it rocks. 220MB/s writing and 280MB/s reading at the same time. USB3 is now working very well 100/130MB/s ( with the lastest bios on the mobo ) we didn't get all the trouble we have before. If you want more power for video and so, an non FX Mobo is better, and buy a HD6000 or HD5900 they are not so expensive. -- Bruno Friedmann (irc:tigerfoot) Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member User www.ioda.net/r/osu Blog www.ioda.net/r/blog fsfe fellowship www.fsfe.org GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 vcard : http://it.ioda-net.ch/ioda-net.vcf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
Den 21. nov. 2010 21:35, skrev Bruno Friedmann .......snip
Actually, one customer build it's server based on that hardware with Phenon II 1090T X6. We put 8 2TB Western digital in raid6 with an adaptec controler 5805z and it rocks. 220MB/s writing and 280MB/s reading at the same time.
USB3 is now working very well 100/130MB/s ( with the lastest bios on the mobo ) we didn't get all the trouble we have before.
If you want more power for video and so, an non FX Mobo is better, and buy a HD6000 or HD5900 they are not so expensive.
Interesting. I have expected uncompressed 1080i50 (1440x1080 at 4:2:2) 8-bit video codec over my Sony FX7's HDMI port will have similar requirements as 1080i60: large disk RAID due to transfer rate of 119MB/sec and 417 GB storage per hour. I would preferably buy the more flexible (mobility) Blackmagic Design Intensity Shuffle unit for uncompressed video capturing over HDMI and USB3, instead of their Intensity PCIe board. But Shuttle and other BMD USB3 units are only supported on Windows so far, not on Linux nor Mac http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/techspecs/ It is neither any secrets and might be of interest here what BMD support also replied on my request regarding this recently:
We are not currently working on Linux support for our USB 3.0 products, as there are currently no suitable USB 3.0 interfaces that exist under Linux operating systems. The current NEC USB 3.0 chips use software based processing, and there are no suitable drivers for these chips to provide isochronous, super speed USB 3.0 transfer under Linux.
It is possible we would support this product on Linux in the future, but the interface for USB 3.0 will need to develop under Linux.
As Blackmagic Design only have uncompressed codecs, we are only able to provide these for capture within our own software. Third party software is available for Blackmagic capture cards, and as Linux is intended mainly as a developer platform, we provide a free SDK for integration and development into other software.
You may also wish to read our USB 3.0 FAQ here, which explains the current configurations and systems suitable for Usb 3.0 video capture:
http://www.blackmagic-design.com/support/detail.asp?techID=201
At this time, I could not say if your AMD system would provide a suitable connection, as currently on the specific Intel X58 and P55 chipsets offer the correct USB 3.0 connectivity.
Terje J. Hanssen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
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