Hello, few days ago Holger asked for some discussion of future work of openSUSE Core Testing Team, but I have not received any message regarding this topic. Well, I'm not professional software tester, so I would appreciate some introduction or short how to from someone more skilled. According to Holger's first mail, where he welcomed us in the team he mentioned "What I personally do expect from the new openSUSE Testing Core is not mainly executing test cases. From my point of view the team is responsible to decide what to test and how to test. This can be done by creating test plans containing test cases either developed by the developers itself or members with good knowledge in that specific area. Good contact to the development teams would for sure support that." It sounds good, but it does not say to me, where and how to start. I'm afraid because of great time shift between Europe and America we are not able to meet in #opensuse-testing IRC channel. I'm not absolutely sure what is difference between https://bugzilla.novell.com/tr_show_run.cgi?run_id=19162 and https://bugzilla.novell.com/tr_show_run.cgi?run_id=19163 - it is for different versions, yes, but I mean in basic idea. After short experimentation I hope I'm familiar with this technology, but short how to would be nice. :-) Finally, here is my basic idea ("the null hypothesis") how to start work of openSUSE Core Testing Team. I try to start the discussion, not to make exact plane of the work. Everyone of us is interested in different areas (I suppose), so let's divide the field of all applications. For example I use KDE, I like its graphical software (digiKam, ...), I use, I'd say, "scientific" applications (R, Kile, ...) and I run a LAMP server. So I would test basically this class of applications. And like this we can divide whole distribution. Some groups, like games :-), might be wished by more people, but I hope we will be able to cover whole field. I hope everyone of us has some deeper knowledge about his favorite applications, so he can say what should be tested, what might be problematic, what is important and so on. I have sens our role should be partially coordinating the testing, shouldn't it? Is it usable basic idea? In Testopia we can then create plans similar to those for YaST (already presented). It can be the coordinating place, right? But who will follow the plans we make in Testopia? Only our group plus developers? Finally, I hope our team will help openSUSE to be the best Linux distribution. :-) Have a nice day, Vojtěch Zeisek