On 10/30/20 8:37 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 31/10/2020 00.31, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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On a different computer, I installed leap, just to see what it offered. It got very little use, but was left in sleep mode until I tried to bring it up today. It came up, but it was unhappy-- things in the GUI didn't work. Rebooted. Came up black screen with mouse cursor in center. Long story short, nothing I tried, including rescue mode (or whatever it's called) brought back normal operation. Finally put install disk in and tried rescue, but it asks for login: and password:

Rescue from install disk should be "root". But you will not be able to do anything with it.

You're right. I don't want to make a project out of this. What should rescue do--doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org

On 2020-10-30 21:21:00 Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 31/10/2020 02.09, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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On 10/30/20 8:37 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

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On 31/10/2020 00.31, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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On a different computer, I installed leap, just to see what it offered. It got very little use, but was left in sleep mode until I tried to bring it up today. It came up, but it was unhappy-- things in the GUI didn't work. Rebooted. Came up black screen with mouse cursor in center. Long story short, nothing I tried, including rescue mode (or whatever it's called) brought back normal operation. Finally put install disk in and tried rescue, but it asks for login: and password:

Rescue from install disk should be "root". But you will not be able to do anything with it.

You're right. I don't want to make a project out of this. What should rescue do--doug

Rescue in in the installation DVD is just a tiny tiny Linux system. To do something with it you need to know what is wrong, how to diagnose things, and how to repair them. There is nothing automatic on it, there is no help at all. Not even manuals.

Yes, it always seemed to me that the rescue system disk is more of a cruel joke than a helpful tool. Leslie -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org

On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 14:49:03 -0500 J Leslie Turriff wrote:

On 2020-10-30 21:21:00 Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Rescue in in the installation DVD is just a tiny tiny Linux system. To do something with it you need to know what is wrong, how to diagnose things, and how to repair them. There is nothing automatic on it, there is no help at all. Not even manuals.

Yes, it always seemed to me that the rescue system disk is more of a cruel joke than a helpful tool.

Just in passing I'm amazed with what ease the SuperGrub CD manages to boot systems which with every advantage cannot even boot themselves :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org

On 10/30/20 8:37 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 31/10/2020 00.31, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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On a different computer, I installed leap, just to see what it offered. It got very little use, but was left in sleep mode until I tried to bring it up today. It came up, but it was unhappy-- things in the GUI didn't work. Rebooted. Came up black screen with mouse cursor in center. Long story short, nothing I tried, including rescue mode (or whatever it's called) brought back normal operation. Finally put install disk in and tried rescue, but it asks for login: and password:

Rescue from install disk should be "root". But you will not be able to do anything with it.

OK. Found out that "rescue" provides a bash shell from which programmers familiar with the bare-bones of the OS might be able to fix it. I am not one of those!  Thanx for the info. --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org

On 10/31/20 6:13 AM, Stakanov wrote:

In data sabato 31 ottobre 2020 00:31:27 CET, Doug McGarrett ha scritto:

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On a different computer, I installed leap, just to see what it offered.

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It got very little use,

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but was left in sleep mode until I tried to bring it up today. It came

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up, but it was unhappy--

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things in the GUI didn't work. Rebooted. Came up black screen with mouse

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cursor in center.

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Long story short, nothing I tried, including rescue mode (or whatever

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it's called) brought

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back normal operation. Finally put install disk in and tried rescue, but

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it asks for login: and password:

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tried my username and my password from when the system worked, but it

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doesn't want that.

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If someone knows what it wants, I'll go on from there. otherwise, maybe

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just put the Windows

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drive back and forget it.

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--doug

Sorry for the somewhat rough reception.

However I have to say: you are not giving any information to help you. The way you are righting here is substantially a way to loose your time and the times of others. It also comes over very arrogant, you seem to not have very clear either the technical aspect or the motivational one. Nobody is paid to help you. And these are not "useful idiots" to push around.

If you have already decided to give up, it would be nice to tell people that the threat is closed, so that others coming by do not loose their time. That said:

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On a different computer, I installed leap, just to see what it offered.

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 > It got very little use,

 > but was left in sleep mode until I tried to bring it up today. It came

 > up, but it was unhappy--

a) what all need to know: what computer do you actually have. You do not tell this. But it is essential.

What is processor, graphic card (as Nvidia is e.g. an industry responsible for a lot of problems), what is the structure of you discs, how many, what kind, how much ram.

Such information should, case you are lost as you claim, be part of ANY request for help.

To be clear, currently you are calling on the phone the owner of a privately driven garage to say: my car does not start, tell me what is wrong, I actually do not like "your industry". What would a guy answer if you do this?

b) you say: left in sleep mode. I am sorry, but could you explain what you are saying?

Was is left hibernated? Was it left suspend to RAM? Was it shutdown normally and for long time you did "forget about it"?

c) what did you install. When you ask for help on a Windows forum, do you say: I have a problem with Windows. People will say either, call a handy man, or they will ask (if they are smart: what are we talking about). If not, it happened that people explained how to use Windows 10 and the guy answered, no, no, no just to say at the end he was using Windows 98.

So: what Leap did you install. This information should even precede everything together with the following point, to help you.

e) Linux gives you choice. So if you installed openSUSE Version X, you also have to mention! what kind of desktop. If not, how would we know?

KDE, Gnome, XFCE or whatever. But we need to know if you want help. So easy it is.

So instead of tying to "morally pressure" people or try to take them by "pride" or "dedication", why aren't you just kind and precise. Helps a lot.

I am here to at least try to understand you issue, once you give a complete information and once the tone is correct and respectful.

Kind regards.

I am sorry that you have apparently taken  umbrage at my post. I thought I made it clear that I was not particularly worried about the loss of Leap, but I *was* pointing to the fact that I had been continuously pointed at Leap as being a preferable OS to TW. If some simple command would have brought the system back, I would have welcomed it, but otherwise, it is no loss. And I haven't decided whether to reinstall Leap, or to install a different Linux, or to revert to an old and not 100% functional PCLOS on a different HD, which is not installed at present. Or, to, God forbid, Windows. Believe it or not, I have not used Windows for more than a few hours *total* in 20 years! --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org

In data domenica 1 novembre 2020 00:18:12 CET, Doug McGarrett ha scritto:

If some simple command would have brought the system back, I would have welcomed it, but otherwise, it is no loss. To be clear. By reading what you write, avoid TW. It is for people comfortable with running a lot of commands in the CLI when things go South on you. If you think that TW is "easier" than Leap, good luck!

You said a simple command. There is a simple command. Actually if you look at the man page there are a LOT of simple command. To know which simple command available is the right for you one needs information. If you do not give this information, Windows, Leap or TW alike, nobody can help you. If you did hibernate the machine and there was not sufficient swap: then this will give at first boot probably a symptom like your. Is it? I do not know, as you did not give the structure of you system. Do you a lot of ram, or little, do you have a swap, how big is it? If you have nvidia, you may start either in safe mode (from grub). But I think you do arrive at grub, as you see a "cursor". Or are you stuck before you reach grub? As you see, there is an easy command to help you. But knowbody can give it to you, because, for what I understand, the sole scope of your post was to blow it off. If not, I am waiting for the info and probably you will find your system in a glance. If you are stuck after grub there is a procedure. If you stuck before grub, there is a procedure.