[opensuse-support] sub for artha?
Has anyone reading here found an acceptable substitute for Artha ? Something that can tolerate minor misspellings, and provide the correct spelling, and perhaps a simple list of definitions? A little app that can live in the panel? --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 2020-07-16 06:14, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Has anyone reading here found an acceptable substitute for Artha ? Something that can tolerate minor misspellings, and provide the correct spelling, and perhaps a simple list of definitions? A little app that can live in the panel?
I'm not sure if the list on this URL fits your requirements but four of them is in TW standard repo and one in education repo. https://www.linuxlinks.com/dictionarytools/ GoldenDict OpenDict GNOME Dictionary Artha StarDict sdcv These are in TW standard repo: GoldenDict GNOME Dictionary StarDict sdcv OpenDict is in education repo: https://software.opensuse.org/package/opendict?search_term=openDict -- /bengan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Doug and anyone else interested in artha, On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 00:14 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Has anyone reading here found an acceptable substitute for Artha ? Something that can tolerate minor misspellings, and provide the correct spelling, and perhaps a simple list of definitions? A little app that can live in the panel? --doug
Artha is back in openSUSE:Factory [1] and should be available again with the next snapshot. See this sr [2] for more background info. Big thanks to Carsten Ziepke for submitting the updated app and to Matthias Gerstner for checking the app for the previously reported exploit [3]. Enjoy! [1] https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:Factory/artha [2] https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/830781 [3] https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1174960 -- Atri Bhattacharya Mon 31 Aug 17:51:36 CEST 2020 Sent from openSUSE Tumbleweed on my laptop. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 8/31/20 12:03 PM, Atri Bhattacharya wrote:
Hi Doug and anyone else interested in artha,
On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 00:14 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Has anyone reading here found an acceptable substitute for Artha ? Something that can tolerate minor misspellings, and provide the correct spelling, and perhaps a simple list of definitions? A little app that can live in the panel? --doug
Artha is back in openSUSE:Factory [1] and should be available again with the next snapshot. See this sr [2] for more background info. Big thanks to Carsten Ziepke for submitting the updated app and to Matthias Gerstner for checking the app for the previously reported exploit [3].
Enjoy!
[1] https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:Factory/artha [2] https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/830781 [3] https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1174960
How can I get that and install it on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed? --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
Op dinsdag 1 september 2020 01:22:03 CEST schreef Doug McGarrett:
On 8/31/20 12:03 PM, Atri Bhattacharya wrote:
Hi Doug and anyone else interested in artha,
On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 00:14 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Has anyone reading here found an acceptable substitute for Artha ? Something that can tolerate minor misspellings, and provide the correct spelling, and perhaps a simple list of definitions? A little app that can live in the panel? --doug
Artha is back in openSUSE:Factory [1] and should be available again with the next snapshot. See this sr [2] for more background info. Big thanks to Carsten Ziepke for submitting the updated app and to Matthias Gerstner for checking the app for the previously reported exploit [3].
Enjoy!
[1] https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:Factory/artha [2] https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/830781 [3] https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1174960
How can I get that and install it on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed?
--doug What about clicking on Dowload Package?
-- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 8/31/20 7:27 PM, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:
Op dinsdag 1 september 2020 01:22:03 CEST schreef Doug McGarrett:
On 8/31/20 12:03 PM, Atri Bhattacharya wrote:
Hi Doug and anyone else interested in artha,
Has anyone reading here found an acceptable substitute for Artha ? Something that can tolerate minor misspellings, and provide the correct spelling, and perhaps a simple list of definitions? A little app that can live in the panel? --doug Artha is back in openSUSE:Factory [1] and should be available again with the next snapshot. See this sr [2] for more background info. Big
On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 00:14 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote: thanks to Carsten Ziepke for submitting the updated app and to Matthias Gerstner for checking the app for the previously reported exploit [3].
Enjoy!
[1] https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:Factory/artha [2] https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/830781 [3] https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1174960 How can I get that and install it on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed?
--doug What about clicking on Dowload Package?
I guess I'm too old. Where will I find the package to click on the Download? --doug
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On 01/09/2020 02.01, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 8/31/20 7:27 PM, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:
Op dinsdag 1 september 2020 01:22:03 CEST schreef Doug McGarrett:
On 8/31/20 12:03 PM, Atri Bhattacharya wrote:
Hi Doug and anyone else interested in artha,
Has anyone reading here found an acceptable substitute for Artha ? Something that can tolerate minor misspellings, and provide the correct spelling, and perhaps a simple list of definitions? A little app that can live in the panel? --doug Artha is back in openSUSE:Factory [1] and should be available again with the next snapshot. See this sr [2] for more background info. Big
On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 00:14 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote: thanks to Carsten Ziepke for submitting the updated app and to Matthias Gerstner for checking the app for the previously reported exploit [3].
Enjoy!
[1] https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:Factory/artha [2] https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/830781 [3] https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1174960 How can I get that and install it on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed?
--doug What about clicking on Dowload Package?
I guess I'm too old. Where will I find the package to click on the Download?
Don't. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 01/09/2020 01.22, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 8/31/20 12:03 PM, Atri Bhattacharya wrote:
Hi Doug and anyone else interested in artha,
On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 00:14 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Has anyone reading here found an acceptable substitute for Artha ? Something that can tolerate minor misspellings, and provide the correct spelling, and perhaps a simple list of definitions? A little app that can live in the panel? --doug
Artha is back in openSUSE:Factory [1] and should be available again with the next snapshot. See this sr [2] for more background info. Big thanks to Carsten Ziepke for submitting the updated app and to Matthias Gerstner for checking the app for the previously reported exploit [3].
Enjoy!
[1] https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:Factory/artha [2] https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/830781 [3] https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1174960
How can I get that and install it on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed?
Sigh... I will explain it again. I explained this months ago to you, but I'll try again. You go to the search page: https://search.opensuse.org/ Click on "packages". You type the name of the package, "artha", and make sure the box on the right says your version, Tumbleweed. Click search. You get several results. Click on "view" button below the "artha" block. Now you are on this URL: https://software.opensuse.org/package/artha Click on "show other distributions", and page down. You will get: *Distributions* openSUSE Tumbleweed [official release] Official 1.0.5 [1 click download][expert download] Notice that it says "official release". The package you want *is already in the official distribution*, all the above was just for confirmation and was not needed. So you close that page, start YaST, select the software manager, select search, type "artha", click on it, click install. Done. Dead easy. You have installed "artha" from those 4 official repos you asked how to add. They have always been there. Now please make an effort to remember these instructions for the next time. This is basic. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 8/31/20 8:08 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 01/09/2020 01.22, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 8/31/20 12:03 PM, Atri Bhattacharya wrote:
Hi Doug and anyone else interested in artha,
On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 00:14 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Has anyone reading here found an acceptable substitute for Artha ? Something that can tolerate minor misspellings, and provide the correct spelling, and perhaps a simple list of definitions? A little app that can live in the panel? --doug
Artha is back in openSUSE:Factory [1] and should be available again with the next snapshot. See this sr [2] for more background info. Big thanks to Carsten Ziepke for submitting the updated app and to Matthias Gerstner for checking the app for the previously reported exploit [3].
Enjoy!
[1] https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:Factory/artha [2] https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/830781 [3] https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1174960
How can I get that and install it on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed?
Sigh...
I will explain it again. I explained this months ago to you, but I'll try again.
You go to the search page: https://search.opensuse.org/
Click on "packages". You type the name of the package, "artha", and make sure the box on the right says your version, Tumbleweed. Click search.
You get several results. Click on "view" button below the "artha" block.
Now you are on this URL: https://software.opensuse.org/package/artha
Click on "show other distributions", and page down. You will get:
*Distributions* openSUSE Tumbleweed [official release] Official 1.0.5 [1 click download][expert download]
Notice that it says "official release". The package you want *is already in the official distribution*, all the above was just for confirmation and was not needed.
So you close that page, start YaST, select the software manager, select search, type "artha", click on it, click install.
Done. Dead easy.
You have installed "artha" from those 4 official repos you asked how to add. They have always been there.
Now please make an effort to remember these instructions for the next time. This is basic.
If I had any hair left I'd tear it out. At about the third step or so, there was a choice to install, so I took it. Didn't work. Tried with yast. Under Package it says No Results.
Trying it with zypper in the console, it comes up with a conflict: DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha System management is locked by the application with pid 30093 (/usr/bin/ruby.ruby2.7). Close this application before trying again. I don't know what this ruby thing is, or why it is open, and I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CLOSE IT! I made my living doing electronic engineering; I'm not stupid. Why does this thing elude me? (I'm smart enough not to try and use Windows! But I've used Linux for years--even the 2019 version of Suse TW. I sure wish I still had it, but the computer died. I had all the apps I wanted and I got both printers installed and now it's like another world!) --doug
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On 2020-08-31 19:40:06 Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 8/31/20 8:08 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 01/09/2020 01.22, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 8/31/20 12:03 PM, Atri Bhattacharya wrote:
Hi Doug and anyone else interested in artha,
On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 00:14 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Has anyone reading here found an acceptable substitute for Artha ? Something that can tolerate minor misspellings, and provide the correct spelling, and perhaps a simple list of definitions? A little app that can live in the panel? --doug
Artha is back in openSUSE:Factory [1] and should be available again with the next snapshot. See this sr [2] for more background info. Big thanks to Carsten Ziepke for submitting the updated app and to Matthias Gerstner for checking the app for the previously reported exploit [3].
Enjoy!
[1] https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:Factory/artha [2] https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/830781 [3] https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1174960
How can I get that and install it on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed?
Sigh...
I will explain it again. I explained this months ago to you, but I'll try again.
You go to the search page: https://search.opensuse.org/
Click on "packages". You type the name of the package, "artha", and make sure the box on the right says your version, Tumbleweed. Click search.
You get several results. Click on "view" button below the "artha" block.
Now you are on this URL: https://software.opensuse.org/package/artha
Click on "show other distributions", and page down. You will get:
*Distributions* openSUSE Tumbleweed [official release] Official 1.0.5 [1 click download][expert download]
Notice that it says "official release". The package you want *is already in the official distribution*, all the above was just for confirmation and was not needed.
So you close that page, start YaST, select the software manager, select search, type "artha", click on it, click install.
Done. Dead easy.
You have installed "artha" from those 4 official repos you asked how to add. They have always been there.
Now please make an effort to remember these instructions for the next time. This is basic.
If I had any hair left I'd tear it out. At about the third step or so, there was a choice to install, so I took it. Didn't work. Tried with yast. Under Package it says No Results.
Trying it with zypper in the console, it comes up with a conflict:
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha System management is locked by the application with pid 30093 (/usr/bin/ruby.ruby2.7). Close this application before trying again.
I don't know what this ruby thing is, or why it is open, and I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CLOSE IT!
I made my living doing electronic engineering; I'm not stupid. Why does this thing elude me? (I'm smart enough not to try and use Windows! But I've used Linux for years--even the 2019 version of Suse TW. I sure wish I still had it, but the computer died. I had all the apps I wanted and I got both printers installed and now it's like another world!)
--doug
Somewhere on your machine there's another copy of either YaST or zypper running. You need to find it and stop it. Leslie -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 20:28:27 -0500 J Leslie Turriff <jlturriff@mail.com> wrote:
On 2020-08-31 19:40:06 Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 8/31/20 8:08 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 01/09/2020 01.22, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 8/31/20 12:03 PM, Atri Bhattacharya wrote:
Hi Doug and anyone else interested in artha,
On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 00:14 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Has anyone reading here found an acceptable substitute for Artha ? Something that can tolerate minor misspellings, and provide the correct spelling, and perhaps a simple list of definitions? A little app that can live in the panel? --doug
Artha is back in openSUSE:Factory [1] and should be available again with the next snapshot. See this sr [2] for more background info. Big thanks to Carsten Ziepke for submitting the updated app and to Matthias Gerstner for checking the app for the previously reported exploit [3].
Enjoy!
[1] https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:Factory/artha [2] https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/830781 [3] https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1174960
How can I get that and install it on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed?
Sigh...
I will explain it again. I explained this months ago to you, but I'll try again. Now please make an effort to remember these instructions for the next time. This is basic.
I made my living doing electronic engineering; I'm not stupid.
Don't take it personally, this dive is full of once harassed children with no life that the missus still beats the living crap out of every second day
Somewhere on your machine there's another copy of either YaST or zypper running. You need to find it and stop it.
OR it's that brain-stem package-kit that starts without asking IF or WHEN might be a good time to start EACH time with options like so: "Now", "Gimme half an hour", "After shutdown" It might work to just wait ten minutes... -- I can only shake my head in disbelief whenever I hear creationists arguing with evolutionists. I'd sooner be a man descendant of a monkey created by a Creator then be one of these, monkey descendants of man. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 2020-08-31 20:53:55 ksusup wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 20:28:27 -0500
J Leslie Turriff <jlturriff@mail.com> wrote:
On 2020-08-31 19:40:06 Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 8/31/20 8:08 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 01/09/2020 01.22, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 8/31/20 12:03 PM, Atri Bhattacharya wrote:
Hi Doug and anyone else interested in artha,
On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 00:14 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote: > Has anyone reading here found an acceptable substitute for Artha ? > Something that can tolerate minor misspellings, > and provide the correct spelling, and perhaps a simple list of > definitions? A little app that can live in the panel? > --doug
Artha is back in openSUSE:Factory [1] and should be available again with the next snapshot. See this sr [2] for more background info. Big thanks to Carsten Ziepke for submitting the updated app and to Matthias Gerstner for checking the app for the previously reported exploit [3].
Enjoy!
[1] https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:Factory/artha [2] https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/830781 [3] https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1174960
How can I get that and install it on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed?
Sigh...
I will explain it again. I explained this months ago to you, but I'll try again. Now please make an effort to remember these instructions for the next time. This is basic.
I made my living doing electronic engineering; I'm not stupid.
Don't take it personally, this dive is full of once harassed children with no life that the missus still beats the living crap out of every second day
Somewhere on your machine there's another copy of either YaST or zypper running. You need to find it and stop it.
OR it's that brain-stem package-kit that starts without asking IF or WHEN might be a good time to start EACH time with options like so:
"Now", "Gimme half an hour", "After shutdown"
It might work to just wait ten minutes...
Oh, yeah; I used to get that. I think I deleted package-kit and forbid YaST to reinstall it. Why does OpenSuSE even include it? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 8/31/20 9:28 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
Trying it with zypper in the console, it comes up with a conflict:
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha System management is locked by the application with pid 30093 (/usr/bin/ruby.ruby2.7). Close this application before trying again.
I don't know what this ruby thing is, or why it is open, and I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CLOSE IT!
I made my living doing electronic engineering; I'm not stupid. Why does this thing elude me? (I'm smart enough not to try and use Windows! But I've used Linux for years--even the 2019 version of Suse TW. I sure wish I still had it, but the computer died. I had all the apps I wanted and I got both printers installed and now it's like another world!)
--doug
Somewhere on your machine there's another copy of either YaST or zypper running. You need to find it and stop it.
Leslie
Tried psaux, top and htop and could not find either one of those. htop is interesting--you can stop the sequence and search for any given running program. That's a new app for me. I thought artha was supposed to be in one of the repositories now. zypper can't find it. DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... 'artha' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'artha' found. Resolving package dependencies... Nothing to do. I was told some time ago that Master PDF Editor was in the repositories. I can't seem to install that either. Maybe I don't know how to enter the name? I'm going to bed. --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2020-09-01 at 00:24 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
I thought artha was supposed to be in one of the repositories now. zypper can't find it.
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... 'artha' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'artha' found. Resolving package dependencies...
Nothing to do.
I did say it will be available (from the official repositories) with the *next* snapshot. Please wait and try again when the next snapshot hits the servers. Cheers. P.S.: No need to cc me personally when replying, I read and respond to emails on this ML anyway. -- Atri Bhattacharya Tue 1 Sep 07:58:09 CEST 2020 Sent from openSUSE Tumbleweed on my laptop. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/09/2020 06.24, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 8/31/20 9:28 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
Tried psaux, top and htop and could not find either one of those. htop is interesting--you can stop the sequence and search for any given running program. That's a new app for me.
Not "psaux", but "ps aux", there is a space in between. Pay attention. And use it like: ps aux | less -S There are several spaces, and there is a vertical bar, a pipe symbol.
I thought artha was supposed to be in one of the repositories now. zypper can't find it.
Well, apparently not yet, so just wait a day or two.
I was told some time ago that Master PDF Editor was in the repositories. I can't seem to install that either. Maybe I don't know how to enter the name?
"Master PDF Editor" is a proprietary product, so no, you can not find it in repositories. There is a gratis version provided by the company that makes it. https://code-industry.net/free-pdf-editor/ Maybe the rpm for redhat works on openSUSE, maybe not. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 2020-09-01 11:07, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Maybe the rpm for redhat works on openSUSE, maybe not.
I'm lagging behind the updates on TW but master-pdf-editor-4.2.70-1.x86_64 works on TW 20200627. Don't know about master-pdf-editor-5.6.42-qt5_included.x86_64 that's on the web site now. -- /bengan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 9/1/20 5:07 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 01/09/2020 06.24, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 8/31/20 9:28 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
Tried psaux, top and htop and could not find either one of those. htop is interesting--you can stop the sequence and search for any given running program. That's a new app for me.
Not "psaux", but "ps aux", there is a space in between. Pay attention. And use it like:
ps aux | less -S
There are several spaces, and there is a vertical bar, a pipe symbol. /snip/ I was told some time ago that Master PDF Editor was in the repositories. I can't seem to install that either. Maybe I don't know how to enter the name?
"Master PDF Editor" is a proprietary product, so no, you can not find it in repositories.
There is a gratis version provided by the company that makes it.
https://code-industry.net/free-pdf-editor/
Maybe the rpm for redhat works on openSUSE, maybe not.
Took the later one and had zypper install it. It works. To put it (and other new apps) on the desktop, left-click on the icon and drag it to the adjacent desktop on the right and tell it copy here. It will then put the icon at the top left of the screen, and you can pcik it up and move it to where you want it. (This works for many but unfortunately not all "foreign" apps you install.) --doug
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On 2020-08-31 23:24:16 Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 8/31/20 9:28 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
Trying it with zypper in the console, it comes up with a conflict:
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha System management is locked by the application with pid 30093 (/usr/bin/ruby.ruby2.7). Close this application before trying again.
I don't know what this ruby thing is, or why it is open, and I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CLOSE IT!
I made my living doing electronic engineering; I'm not stupid. Why does this thing elude me? (I'm smart enough not to try and use Windows! But I've used Linux for years--even the 2019 version of Suse TW. I sure wish I still had it, but the computer died. I had all the apps I wanted and I got both printers installed and now it's like another world!)
--doug
Somewhere on your machine there's another copy of either YaST or zypper running. You need to find it and stop it.
Leslie
Tried psaux, top and htop and could not find either one of those. htop is interesting--you can stop the sequence and search for any given running program. That's a new app for me.
I thought artha was supposed to be in one of the repositories now. zypper can't find it.
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... 'artha' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'artha' found. Resolving package dependencies...
Nothing to do.
It's there now: | █ zypper se --details artha | : | S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | Repository | --+-------------------+------------+-----------------+--------+------------------ | | artha | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Main | Repository | | artha | srcpackage | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | noarch | Source Repository | | artha-debuginfo | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Debug Repository | | artha-debugsource | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Debug Repository -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 9/1/20 3:26 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
I thought artha was supposed to be in one of the repositories now. zypper can't find it.
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... 'artha' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'artha' found. Resolving package dependencies...
Nothing to do.
It's there now:
| █ zypper se --details artha | : | S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | Repository | --+-------------------+------------+-----------------+--------+------------------ | | artha | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Main | Repository | | artha | srcpackage | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | noarch | Source Repository | | artha-debuginfo | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Debug Repository | | artha-debugsource | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Debug Repository
IZZAT SO? DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper se --details artha Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... No matching items found. Now what am I doing wrong--again? --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 2020-09-01 14:50:43 Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/1/20 3:26 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
I thought artha was supposed to be in one of the repositories now. zypper can't find it.
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... 'artha' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'artha' found. Resolving package dependencies...
Nothing to do.
It's there now: | █ zypper se --details artha | | S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | | Repository | --+-------------------+------------+-----------------+--------+-------- |---------- | | | artha | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Main |
Repository
| | artha | srcpackage | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | noarch | Source
Repository
| | artha-debuginfo | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Debug
Repository
| | artha-debugsource | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Debug
Repository
IZZAT SO?
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper se --details artha Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... No matching items found.
Now what am I doing wrong--again?
--doug
Use | zypper repos to see which ones zypper can see? Leslie -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 9/1/20 3:53 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
On 2020-09-01 14:50:43 Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/1/20 3:26 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
I thought artha was supposed to be in one of the repositories now. zypper can't find it.
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... 'artha' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'artha' found. Resolving package dependencies...
Nothing to do. It's there now: | █ zypper se --details artha | | S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | | Repository | --+-------------------+------------+-----------------+--------+-------- |---------- | | | artha | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Main |
Repository
| | artha | srcpackage | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | noarch | Source
Repository
| | artha-debuginfo | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Debug
Repository
| | artha-debugsource | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Debug
Repository IZZAT SO?
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper se --details artha Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... No matching items found.
Now what am I doing wrong--again?
--doug Use | zypper repos to see which ones zypper can see?
Leslie That shows that I have all refreshed repos EXCEPT the one for my openSUSE-20200824. (And the source repo.) This is like a jig-saw puzzle! --doug
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On 2020-09-01 14:50:43 Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/1/20 3:26 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
I thought artha was supposed to be in one of the repositories now. zypper can't find it.
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... 'artha' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'artha' found. Resolving package dependencies...
Nothing to do. It's there now: | █ zypper se --details artha | | S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | | Repository | --+-------------------+------------+-----------------+--------+-------- |---------- | | | artha | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Main |
Repository
| | artha | srcpackage | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | noarch | Source
Repository
| | artha-debuginfo | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Debug
Repository
| | artha-debugsource | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Debug
Repository IZZAT SO?
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper se --details artha Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... No matching items found.
Now what am I doing wrong--again?
--doug Use | zypper repos to see which ones zypper can see?
Leslie Somewhere along here, it says that artha is in education repo. zypper repos does not show education so how does one install artha? This seems like such a simple question, why am I having so much
On 9/1/20 3:53 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote: trouble? BTW: the fix for double-spacing in Thunderbird seems to be working now. --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 2020-09-01 19:19:12 Doug McGarrett wrote:
Somewhere along here, it says that artha is in education repo. zypper repos does not show education so how does one install artha? This seems like such a simple question, why am I having so much trouble?
BTW: the fix for double-spacing in Thunderbird seems to be working now. --doug
Doug, let's get together off-list to discuss how zypper and repositories work. Leslie -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/09/2020 02.19, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/1/20 3:53 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
Somewhere along here, it says that artha is in education repo. zypper repos does not show education so how does one install artha? This seems like such a simple question, why am I having so much trouble?
Doug, forget the education repo, don't go that road.
BTW: the fix for double-spacing in Thunderbird seems to be working now.
Good. What was it? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 9/2/20 3:13 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 02/09/2020 02.19, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/1/20 3:53 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
Somewhere along here, it says that artha is in education repo. zypper repos does not show education so how does one install artha? This seems like such a simple question, why am I having so much trouble?
Doug, forget the education repo, don't go that road. I have artha installed.
BTW: the fix for double-spacing in Thunderbird seems to be working now.
Good. What was it? Edit > Preferences > Attachments > checkbox "Use paragraph format instead of Body Text by default" UNCHECK this box.
In this section is also Send Options, which will allow me to send OS mail in plain text and all the rest in HTML, as soon as I figure out hoe to define it all. There is no "Apply" checkbox, so it seems that sometimes the fix doesn't go forward, but it has at the moment. --doug
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On 01/09/2020 21.50, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/1/20 3:26 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
I thought artha was supposed to be in one of the repositories now. zypper can't find it.
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... 'artha' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'artha' found. Resolving package dependencies...
Nothing to do.
It's there now:
| █ zypper se --details artha | : | S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | Repository | --+-------------------+------------+-----------------+--------+------------------
| | artha | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Main | Repository | | artha | srcpackage | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | noarch | Source Repository | | artha-debuginfo | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Debug Repository | | artha-debugsource | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Debug Repository
IZZAT SO?
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper se --details artha
Are you doing "su" instead of "su -", without the dash, again?
Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... No matching items found.
Now what am I doing wrong--again?
Try "zyppper refresh". -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 2020-09-01 14:55:29 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 01/09/2020 21.50, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/1/20 3:26 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
I thought artha was supposed to be in one of the repositories now. zypper can't find it.
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... 'artha' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'artha' found. Resolving package dependencies...
Nothing to do.
It's there now: | █ zypper se --details artha | | S | Name | Type | Version | Arch |
Repository
--+-------------------+------------+-----------------+--------+---------
| | artha | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Main |
Repository
| | artha | srcpackage | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | noarch | Source
Repository
| | artha-debuginfo | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Debug
Repository
| | artha-debugsource | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Debug
Repository
IZZAT SO?
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper se --details artha
Are you doing "su" instead of "su -", without the dash, again?
Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... No matching items found.
Now what am I doing wrong--again?
Try "zyppper refresh".
With just 2 p's :-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/09/2020 22.02, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
On 2020-09-01 14:55:29 Carlos E. R. wrote:
Try "zyppper refresh".
With just 2 p's :-)
Oops :-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 01/09/2020 21.50, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/1/20 3:26 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
I thought artha was supposed to be in one of the repositories now. zypper can't find it.
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... 'artha' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'artha' found. Resolving package dependencies...
Nothing to do.
It's there now:
| █ zypper se --details artha | : | S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | Repository | --+-------------------+------------+-----------------+--------+------------------
| | artha | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Main | Repository | | artha | srcpackage | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | noarch | Source Repository | | artha-debuginfo | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Debug Repository | | artha-debugsource | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Debug Repository
IZZAT SO?
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper se --details artha
Are you doing "su" instead of "su -", without the dash, again? I'm doing su when I need to be admin to install something. Then I close
On 9/1/20 3:55 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote: the bash window.
Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... No matching items found.
Now what am I doing wrong--again?
Try "zyppper refresh".
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper refresh Repository 'openSUSE:Factory' is up to date. Repository 'openSUSE:Tumbleweed' is up to date. Repository 'KDE:Extra' is up to date. Repository 'KDE:Extra' is up to date. Repository 'openSUSE-20200824-0' is up to date. Repository 'openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Non-Oss' is up to date. Repository 'openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss' is up to date. Repository 'openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Update' is up to date. All repositories have been refreshed. DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... 'artha' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'artha' found. Resolving package dependencies... Nothing to do. I DO try to follow directions, but something doesn't seem to be getting thru! --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue 01 Sep 2020 04:47:02 PM CDT, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/1/20 3:55 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 01/09/2020 21.50, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/1/20 3:26 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
I thought artha was supposed to be in one of the repositories now. zypper can't find it.
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... 'artha' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'artha' found. Resolving package dependencies...
Nothing to do.
It's there now:
| █ zypper se --details artha | : | S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | Repository | --+-------------------+------------+-----------------+--------+------------------
| | artha | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Main | Repository | | artha | srcpackage | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | noarch | Source Repository | | artha-debuginfo | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Debug Repository | | artha-debugsource | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Debug Repository
IZZAT SO?
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper se --details artha
Are you doing "su" instead of "su -", without the dash, again? I'm doing su when I need to be admin to install something. Then I close the bash window.
Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... No matching items found.
Now what am I doing wrong--again?
Try "zyppper refresh". DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper refresh Repository 'openSUSE:Factory' is up to date. Repository 'openSUSE:Tumbleweed' is up to date. Repository 'KDE:Extra' is up to date. Repository 'KDE:Extra' is up to date. Repository 'openSUSE-20200824-0' is up to date. Repository 'openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Non-Oss' is up to date. Repository 'openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss' is up to date. Repository 'openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Update' is up to date. All repositories have been refreshed. DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... 'artha' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'artha' found. Resolving package dependencies...
Nothing to do.
I DO try to follow directions, but something doesn't seem to be getting thru! --doug Hi So, you show from the above output, that your using Tumbleweed?
Yet your output of packages show Leap 15.1 ones? There is NO package artha in the current Tumbleweed snapshot, as informed it's coming but has to pass through review, openQA etc before it will make it into a snapshot. -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) Tumbleweed 20200829 | GNOME Shell 3.36.5 | 5.8.4-1-default Intel DQ77MK MB | Xeon E3-1245 V2 X8 @ 3.40 GHz | Intel/Nvidia up 23:48, 2 users, load average: 2.06, 3.08, 2.87 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/09/2020 22.50, Malcolm wrote:
On Tue 01 Sep 2020 04:47:02 PM CDT, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/1/20 3:55 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 01/09/2020 21.50, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/1/20 3:26 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
...
Hi So, you show from the above output, that your using Tumbleweed?
Yet your output of packages show Leap 15.1 ones?
No, that output is from J. Leslie. I didn't notice at the time that it was for Leap, sorry. Yes, Leap has artha, TW lost it, and now it has been added and may take some days. So, Doug, just be patient.
There is NO package artha in the current Tumbleweed snapshot, as informed it's coming but has to pass through review, openQA etc before it will make it into a snapshot.
-- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 2020-09-01 16:09:08 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 01/09/2020 22.50, Malcolm wrote:
On Tue 01 Sep 2020 04:47:02 PM CDT, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/1/20 3:55 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 01/09/2020 21.50, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/1/20 3:26 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
...
Hi So, you show from the above output, that your using Tumbleweed?
Yet your output of packages show Leap 15.1 ones?
No, that output is from J. Leslie. I didn't notice at the time that it was for Leap, sorry.
Yes, Leap has artha, TW lost it, and now it has been added and may take some days. So, Doug, just be patient.
There is NO package artha in the current Tumbleweed snapshot, as informed it's coming but has to pass through review, openQA etc before it will make it into a snapshot.
MY MISTAKE. Sorry, Doug. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 9/1/20 5:09 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 01/09/2020 22.50, Malcolm wrote:
On Tue 01 Sep 2020 04:47:02 PM CDT, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/1/20 3:55 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 01/09/2020 21.50, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/1/20 3:26 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
...
Hi So, you show from the above output, that your using Tumbleweed?
Yet your output of packages show Leap 15.1 ones?
No, that output is from J. Leslie. I didn't notice at the time that it was for Leap, sorry.
Yes, Leap has artha, TW lost it, and now it has been added and may take some days. So, Doug, just be patient.
OK! At least I haven't gone completely crazy! Thanx for the input! --doug
There is NO package artha in the current Tumbleweed snapshot, as
informed it's coming but has to pass through review, openQA etc before it will make it into a snapshot.
-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/09/2020 22.47, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/1/20 3:55 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 01/09/2020 21.50, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/1/20 3:26 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
...
IZZAT SO?
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper se --details artha
Are you doing "su" instead of "su -", without the dash, again? I'm doing su when I need to be admin to install something. Then I close the bash window.
That is not what I asked. Pay attention, please. I say that you are using "su" without a dash. I say that I told you months ago to not do that, and use instead "su -". With a dash. It is *important*. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 2020-09-01 16:11:20 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 01/09/2020 22.47, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/1/20 3:55 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 01/09/2020 21.50, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/1/20 3:26 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
...
IZZAT SO?
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper se --details artha
Are you doing "su" instead of "su -", without the dash, again?
I'm doing su when I need to be admin to install something. Then I close the bash window.
That is not what I asked. Pay attention, please. I say that you are using "su" without a dash. I say that I told you months ago to not do that, and use instead "su -". With a dash. It is *important*.
su WITHOUT the dash does not switch to root's /root directory, etc. su WITH the dash does; so when you're using su to do things as root, you Must add the dash. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 9/1/20 5:11 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
/snip/
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper se --details artha
Are you doing "su" instead of "su -", without the dash, again? I'm doing su when I need to be admin to install something. Then I close the bash window.
That is not what I asked. Pay attention, please. I say that you are using "su" without a dash. I say that I told you months ago to not do that, and use instead "su -". With a dash. It is *important*.
OK, I don't remember you sending me that, but I'll follow thru. WHY is it important? --doug
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On 02/09/2020 00.45, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/1/20 5:11 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
/snip/
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper se --details artha
Are you doing "su" instead of "su -", without the dash, again? I'm doing su when I need to be admin to install something. Then I close the bash window.
That is not what I asked. Pay attention, please. I say that you are using "su" without a dash. I say that I told you months ago to not do that, and use instead "su -". With a dash. It is *important*.
OK, I don't remember you sending me that, but I'll follow thru. WHY is it important?
Leslie explained it just a while ago. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 14:26:05 -0500 J Leslie Turriff <jlturriff@mail.com> wrote:
On 2020-08-31 23:24:16 Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 8/31/20 9:28 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
Trying it with zypper in the console, it comes up with a conflict:
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha System management is locked by the application with pid 30093 (/usr/bin/ruby.ruby2.7). Close this application before trying again.
I don't know what this ruby thing is, or why it is open, and I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CLOSE IT!
I made my living doing electronic engineering; I'm not stupid. Why does this thing elude me? (I'm smart enough not to try and use Windows! But I've used Linux for years--even the 2019 version of Suse TW. I sure wish I still had it, but the computer died. I had all the apps I wanted and I got both printers installed and now it's like another world!)
--doug
Somewhere on your machine there's another copy of either YaST or zypper running. You need to find it and stop it.
Leslie
Tried psaux, top and htop and could not find either one of those. htop is interesting--you can stop the sequence and search for any given running program. That's a new app for me.
I thought artha was supposed to be in one of the repositories now. zypper can't find it.
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... 'artha' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'artha' found. Resolving package dependencies...
Nothing to do.
It's there now:
| █ zypper se --details artha | : | S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | Repository | --+-------------------+------------+-----------------+--------+------------------ | | artha | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Main | Repository | | artha | srcpackage | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | noarch | Source Repository | | artha-debuginfo | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Debug Repository | | artha-debugsource | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Debug Repository
Just to be sure, can you explain why your results show version 1.0.3 and an indicated release of 15.1, when we are discussing Tumbleweed and Atri's original link points to something called artha-1.0.5.tar.gz suggesting we are also considering a newer version? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/09/2020 23.50, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 14:26:05 -0500 J Leslie Turriff <> wrote:
On 2020-08-31 23:24:16 Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 8/31/20 9:28 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
Trying it with zypper in the console, it comes up with a conflict:
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha System management is locked by the application with pid 30093 (/usr/bin/ruby.ruby2.7). Close this application before trying again.
I don't know what this ruby thing is, or why it is open, and I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CLOSE IT!
I made my living doing electronic engineering; I'm not stupid. Why does this thing elude me? (I'm smart enough not to try and use Windows! But I've used Linux for years--even the 2019 version of Suse TW. I sure wish I still had it, but the computer died. I had all the apps I wanted and I got both printers installed and now it's like another world!)
--doug
Somewhere on your machine there's another copy of either YaST or zypper running. You need to find it and stop it.
Leslie
Tried psaux, top and htop and could not find either one of those. htop is interesting--you can stop the sequence and search for any given running program. That's a new app for me.
I thought artha was supposed to be in one of the repositories now. zypper can't find it.
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... 'artha' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'artha' found. Resolving package dependencies...
Nothing to do.
It's there now:
| █ zypper se --details artha | : | S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | Repository | --+-------------------+------------+-----------------+--------+------------------ | | artha | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Main | Repository | | artha | srcpackage | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | noarch | Source Repository | | artha-debuginfo | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Debug Repository | | artha-debugsource | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Debug Repository
Just to be sure, can you explain why your results show version 1.0.3 and an indicated release of 15.1, when we are discussing Tumbleweed and Atri's original link points to something called artha-1.0.5.tar.gz suggesting we are also considering a newer version?
Those results are from Leslie and he made a mistake, that's all. And others did not notice till tonight. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 2020-09-01 16:50:03 Dave Howorth wrote:
On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 14:26:05 -0500
J Leslie Turriff <jlturriff@mail.com> wrote:
On 2020-08-31 23:24:16 Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 8/31/20 9:28 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
Trying it with zypper in the console, it comes up with a conflict:
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha System management is locked by the application with pid 30093 (/usr/bin/ruby.ruby2.7). Close this application before trying again.
I don't know what this ruby thing is, or why it is open, and I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CLOSE IT!
I made my living doing electronic engineering; I'm not stupid. Why does this thing elude me? (I'm smart enough not to try and use Windows! But I've used Linux for years--even the 2019 version of Suse TW. I sure wish I still had it, but the computer died. I had all the apps I wanted and I got both printers installed and now it's like another world!)
--doug
Somewhere on your machine there's another copy of either YaST or zypper running. You need to find it and stop it.
Leslie
Tried psaux, top and htop and could not find either one of those. htop is interesting--you can stop the sequence and search for any given running program. That's a new app for me.
I thought artha was supposed to be in one of the repositories now. zypper can't find it.
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... 'artha' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'artha' found. Resolving package dependencies...
Nothing to do.
It's there now: | █ zypper se --details artha | | S | Name | Type | Version | Arch |
Repository | --+-------------------+------------+-----------------+--------+----------
| | artha | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 |
Main | Repository | | artha | srcpackage | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | noarch | Source Repository
| | artha-debuginfo | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 |
Debug Repository
| | artha-debugsource | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 |
Debug Repository
Just to be sure, can you explain why your results show version 1.0.3 and an indicated release of 15.1, when we are discussing Tumbleweed and Atri's original link points to something called artha-1.0.5.tar.gz suggesting we are also considering a newer version?
IT'S MY FAULT! Mea culpa! Mea culpa! That was MY output, not Doug's. I forgot that Doug is using Tumbleweed! Okay!? Leslie -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 9/1/20 5:55 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
On 2020-09-01 16:50:03 Dave Howorth wrote:
/snip/
I thought artha was supposed to be in one of the repositories now. zypper can't find it.
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... 'artha' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'artha' found. Resolving package dependencies...
Nothing to do. It's there now: | █ zypper se --details artha | | S | Name | Type | Version | Arch |
Repository | --+-------------------+------------+-----------------+--------+----------
| | artha | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 |
Main | Repository | | artha | srcpackage | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | noarch | Source Repository
| | artha-debuginfo | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 |
Debug Repository
| | artha-debugsource | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 |
Debug Repository Just to be sure, can you explain why your results show version 1.0.3 and an indicated release of 15.1, when we are discussing Tumbleweed and Atri's original link points to something called artha-1.0.5.tar.gz suggesting we are also considering a newer version? IT'S MY FAULT! Mea culpa! Mea culpa! That was MY output, not Doug's. I forgot that Doug is using Tumbleweed! Okay!?
Leslie Thanx, Les! --doug
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* Dave Howorth <dave@howorth.org.uk> [09-01-20 17:50]:
On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 14:26:05 -0500 J Leslie Turriff <jlturriff@mail.com> wrote:
On 2020-08-31 23:24:16 Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 8/31/20 9:28 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
Trying it with zypper in the console, it comes up with a conflict:
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha System management is locked by the application with pid 30093 (/usr/bin/ruby.ruby2.7). Close this application before trying again.
I don't know what this ruby thing is, or why it is open, and I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CLOSE IT!
I made my living doing electronic engineering; I'm not stupid. Why does this thing elude me? (I'm smart enough not to try and use Windows! But I've used Linux for years--even the 2019 version of Suse TW. I sure wish I still had it, but the computer died. I had all the apps I wanted and I got both printers installed and now it's like another world!)
--doug
Somewhere on your machine there's another copy of either YaST or zypper running. You need to find it and stop it.
Leslie
Tried psaux, top and htop and could not find either one of those. htop is interesting--you can stop the sequence and search for any given running program. That's a new app for me.
I thought artha was supposed to be in one of the repositories now. zypper can't find it.
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... 'artha' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'artha' found. Resolving package dependencies...
Nothing to do.
It's there now:
| █ zypper se --details artha | : | S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | Repository | --+-------------------+------------+-----------------+--------+------------------ | | artha | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Main | Repository | | artha | srcpackage | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | noarch | Source Repository | | artha-debuginfo | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Debug Repository | | artha-debugsource | package | 1.0.3-lp151.3.2 | x86_64 | Debug Repository
Just to be sure, can you explain why your results show version 1.0.3 and an indicated release of 15.1, when we are discussing Tumbleweed and Atri's original link points to something called artha-1.0.5.tar.gz suggesting we are also considering a newer version?
artha on Tw is in education repo and verson is 1.0.5-19.1 -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 9/1/20 6:21 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: Is there a command in zypper that goes something like this: zypper install /education/artha or if not, how do I make "education" available, preferably at all times? --doug
artha on Tw is in education repo and verson is 1.0.5-19.1
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On 02/09/2020 00.57, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/1/20 6:21 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Is there a command in zypper that goes something like this: zypper install /education/artha
No, stop.
or if not, how do I make "education" available, preferably at all times?
--doug
artha on Tw is in education repo and verson is 1.0.5-19.1
-- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 02/09/2020 00.21, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
artha on Tw is in education repo and verson is 1.0.5-19.1
No. Read the rest of the thread, Atri Bhattacharya put it back and it is an official package. It simply has not been published yet. https://software.opensuse.org/package/artha -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 01/09/2020 02.40, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 8/31/20 8:08 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 01/09/2020 01.22, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 8/31/20 12:03 PM, Atri Bhattacharya wrote:
Hi Doug and anyone else interested in artha,
On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 00:14 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Has anyone reading here found an acceptable substitute for Artha ? Something that can tolerate minor misspellings, and provide the correct spelling, and perhaps a simple list of definitions? A little app that can live in the panel? --doug
Artha is back in openSUSE:Factory [1] and should be available again with the next snapshot. See this sr [2] for more background info. Big thanks to Carsten Ziepke for submitting the updated app and to Matthias Gerstner for checking the app for the previously reported exploit [3].
Enjoy!
[1] https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:Factory/artha [2] https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/830781 [3] https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1174960
How can I get that and install it on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed?
Sigh...
I will explain it again. I explained this months ago to you, but I'll try again.
You go to the search page: https://search.opensuse.org/
Click on "packages". You type the name of the package, "artha", and make sure the box on the right says your version, Tumbleweed. Click search.
You get several results. Click on "view" button below the "artha" block.
Now you are on this URL: https://software.opensuse.org/package/artha
Click on "show other distributions", and page down. You will get:
*Distributions* openSUSE Tumbleweed [official release] Official 1.0.5 [1 click download][expert download]
Notice that it says "official release". The package you want *is already in the official distribution*, all the above was just for confirmation and was not needed.
So you close that page, start YaST, select the software manager, select search, type "artha", click on it, click install.
Done. Dead easy.
You have installed "artha" from those 4 official repos you asked how to add. They have always been there.
Now please make an effort to remember these instructions for the next time. This is basic.
If I had any hair left I'd tear it out. At about the third step or so, there was a choice to install, so I took it.
In my instructions, I did not tell you to click install on the web page. That shortcut is dangerous. You probably have tried [1 click install]. That's a nightmare. Please, when I write instructions for you, read them to the end before starting, and then do what I tell you to do, do not deviate. If stuck, stop and ask.
Didn't work. Tried with yast. Under Package it says No Results.
At this point you should have stopped and wait for another day. The package has been published today, it is possible it is not ready everywhere. Or you made a typing error.
Trying it with zypper in the console, it comes up with a conflict:
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha System management is locked by the application with pid 30093 (/usr/bin/ruby.ruby2.7). Close this application before trying again.
I don't know what this ruby thing is, or why it is open, and I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CLOSE IT!
YaST is coded with Ruby, so very probably you have YaST open somewhere else.
I made my living doing electronic engineering; I'm not stupid. Why does this thing elude me? (I'm smart enough not to try and use Windows! But I've used Linux for years--even the 2019 version of Suse TW. I sure wish I still had it, but the computer died. I had all the apps I wanted and I got both printers installed and now it's like another world!)
Well, that is to be expected, TW is changing every day. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 01/09/2020 04.20, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 01/09/2020 02.40, Doug McGarrett wrote:
....
Trying it with zypper in the console, it comes up with a conflict:
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha System management is locked by the application with pid 30093 (/usr/bin/ruby.ruby2.7). Close this application before trying again.
I don't know what this ruby thing is, or why it is open, and I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CLOSE IT!
YaST is coded with Ruby, so very probably you have YaST open somewhere else.
You can verify what app it is. In a wide terminal, type: ps afxu | less -S Then type "/" for search forward, then type the PID number you got above, "30093" and you can see the application that started it. Example - the PID is different here: USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND ... cer 6055 0.0 0.1 456456 36604 ? Sl Aug30 0:02 lxterminal cer 6086 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? Z Aug30 0:00 _ [lxterminal] <defunct> cer 6087 0.0 0.0 19832 9192 pts/64 Ss Aug30 0:00 _ bash root 11475 0.0 0.0 118260 6232 pts/64 S Aug30 0:00 | _ su - root 11480 0.0 0.0 19984 9664 pts/64 S+ Aug30 0:00 | _ -bash root 883 0.0 0.0 12600 3588 pts/64 S 04:43 0:00 | _ /bin/bash /sbin/yast2 root 906 0.3 0.2 1670120 84228 pts/64 Sl 04:43 0:00 | _ /usr/lib/YaST2/bin/y2controlcenter -name YaST2 -icon yast and further down: root 926 0.0 0.0 12600 3628 pts/64 S 04:43 0:00 /bin/bash /sbin/yast2 sw_single root 954 5.8 1.0 2312416 352084 pts/64 Sl 04:43 0:05 _ /usr/bin/ruby.ruby2.5 --encoding=utf-8 /usr/lib/YaST2/bin/y2start sw_single qt -name YaST2 -icon yast Do you see ruby there? PID 954. Well, above it is "/sbin/yast2 sw_single" that is the software management module, which is the one to close. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Op dinsdag 1 september 2020 02:40:06 CEST schreef Doug McGarrett:
Trying it with zypper in the console, it comes up with a conflict:
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha System management is locked by the application with pid 30093 (/usr/bin/ruby.ruby2.7). Close this application before trying again.
You see the culprit is already given above, 30093. So "kill -9 30093" will abort that process. -- fr.gr. member openSUSE Freek de Kruijf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/09/2020 09.53, Freek de Kruijf wrote:
Op dinsdag 1 september 2020 02:40:06 CEST schreef Doug McGarrett:
Trying it with zypper in the console, it comes up with a conflict:
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha System management is locked by the application with pid 30093 (/usr/bin/ruby.ruby2.7). Close this application before trying again.
You see the culprit is already given above, 30093.
So "kill -9 30093" will abort that process.
Don't. Because this kills the tool without cleanup, and the flag file that signals the dattabase lock remains there, not deleted, and then we have a new problem to explain to Doug. :-/ -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Op dinsdag 1 september 2020 10:57:32 CEST schreef Carlos E. R.:
On 01/09/2020 09.53, Freek de Kruijf wrote:
Op dinsdag 1 september 2020 02:40:06 CEST schreef Doug McGarrett:
Trying it with zypper in the console, it comes up with a conflict:
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha System management is locked by the application with pid 30093 (/usr/bin/ruby.ruby2.7). Close this application before trying again.
You see the culprit is already given above, 30093.
So "kill -9 30093" will abort that process.
Don't.
Because this kills the tool without cleanup, and the flag file that signals the dattabase lock remains there, not deleted, and then we have a new problem to explain to Doug. :-/
I did do this often without ill effect. Maybe I just used "kill 30093" without the -9. -- fr.gr. member openSUSE Freek de Kruijf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/09/2020 11.09, Freek de Kruijf wrote:
Op dinsdag 1 september 2020 10:57:32 CEST schreef Carlos E. R.:
On 01/09/2020 09.53, Freek de Kruijf wrote:
Op dinsdag 1 september 2020 02:40:06 CEST schreef Doug McGarrett:
Trying it with zypper in the console, it comes up with a conflict:
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha System management is locked by the application with pid 30093 (/usr/bin/ruby.ruby2.7). Close this application before trying again.
You see the culprit is already given above, 30093.
So "kill -9 30093" will abort that process.
Don't.
Because this kills the tool without cleanup, and the flag file that signals the dattabase lock remains there, not deleted, and then we have a new problem to explain to Doug. :-/
I did do this often without ill effect. Maybe I just used "kill 30093" without the -9.
Yes, there is a difference :-) A polite signal should work, but I'm not fully sure. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 2020-09-01 04:14:49 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 01/09/2020 11.09, Freek de Kruijf wrote:
Op dinsdag 1 september 2020 10:57:32 CEST schreef Carlos E. R.:
On 01/09/2020 09.53, Freek de Kruijf wrote:
Op dinsdag 1 september 2020 02:40:06 CEST schreef Doug McGarrett:
Trying it with zypper in the console, it comes up with a conflict:
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha System management is locked by the application with pid 30093 (/usr/bin/ruby.ruby2.7). Close this application before trying again.
You see the culprit is already given above, 30093.
So "kill -9 30093" will abort that process.
Don't.
Because this kills the tool without cleanup, and the flag file that signals the dattabase lock remains there, not deleted, and then we have a new problem to explain to Doug. :-/
I did do this often without ill effect. Maybe I just used "kill 30093" without the -9.
Yes, there is a difference :-) A polite signal should work, but I'm not fully sure.
I was under the impression that -9 is the default; but in any case, I've never had a problem with the lockfile from doing this. I did have fun discovering that 'sw-single' is the YaST "Software Management" tool. How these names are correlated is a mystery to me; especially, why single for a tool that works with multiple packages? :-) Leslie -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/09/2020 21.33, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
On 2020-09-01 04:14:49 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 01/09/2020 11.09, Freek de Kruijf wrote:
Op dinsdag 1 september 2020 10:57:32 CEST schreef Carlos E. R.:
On 01/09/2020 09.53, Freek de Kruijf wrote:
Op dinsdag 1 september 2020 02:40:06 CEST schreef Doug McGarrett:
Trying it with zypper in the console, it comes up with a conflict:
DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha System management is locked by the application with pid 30093 (/usr/bin/ruby.ruby2.7). Close this application before trying again.
You see the culprit is already given above, 30093.
So "kill -9 30093" will abort that process.
Don't.
Because this kills the tool without cleanup, and the flag file that signals the dattabase lock remains there, not deleted, and then we have a new problem to explain to Doug. :-/
I did do this often without ill effect. Maybe I just used "kill 30093" without the -9.
Yes, there is a difference :-) A polite signal should work, but I'm not fully sure.
I was under the impression that -9 is the default; but in any case, I've never had a problem with the lockfile from doing this.
No, the default is "TERM", ie, 15 (signal(7)). Using 9 is dangerous. The correct manner is first to exit the program if it responds, then a normal signal, and as a last resource, a 9. Yes, I had problems with the lock file, and seen other people having trouble with it asking here or elsewhere.
I did have fun discovering that 'sw-single' is the YaST "Software Management" tool. How these names are correlated is a mystery to me; especially, why single for a tool that works with multiple packages? :-)
Ancient history, I'd guess. :-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 2020-09-01 14:46:17 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 01/09/2020 21.33, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
On 2020-09-01 04:14:49 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 01/09/2020 11.09, Freek de Kruijf wrote:
Op dinsdag 1 september 2020 10:57:32 CEST schreef Carlos E. R.:
On 01/09/2020 09.53, Freek de Kruijf wrote:
Op dinsdag 1 september 2020 02:40:06 CEST schreef Doug McGarrett: > Trying it with zypper in the console, it comes up with a conflict: > > DESKTOP-4FH9U1P:/home/doug # zypper install artha > System management is locked by the application with pid 30093 > (/usr/bin/ruby.ruby2.7). > Close this application before trying again.
You see the culprit is already given above, 30093.
So "kill -9 30093" will abort that process.
Don't.
Because this kills the tool without cleanup, and the flag file that signals the dattabase lock remains there, not deleted, and then we have a new problem to explain to Doug. :-/
I did do this often without ill effect. Maybe I just used "kill 30093" without the -9.
Yes, there is a difference :-) A polite signal should work, but I'm not fully sure.
I was under the impression that -9 is the default; but in any case, I've never had a problem with the lockfile from doing this.
No, the default is "TERM", ie, 15 (signal(7)).
Using 9 is dangerous. The correct manner is first to exit the program if it responds, then a normal signal, and as a last resource, a 9.
Ah, you're right. I always forget where the definitions for them are stored; thanks for refreshing my memory.
Yes, I had problems with the lock file, and seen other people having trouble with it asking here or elsewhere.
I did have fun discovering that 'sw-single' is the YaST "Software Management" tool. How these names are correlated is a mystery to me; especially, why single for a tool that works with multiple packages? :-)
Ancient history, I'd guess. :-)
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