[opensuse-support] Is there any official(!) recommendation about the way to downgrade from e.g. 15.2 to 15.1?
15.2 is not working for me, in order to have my working system back it is unfortunately necessary to downgrade to 15.1. In all these years that never happened to me, but for everything there is a first time. I would like to avoid a reinstall. With zypper dup --allow-vendor-change and setting all repos to 15.1, is there anybody able to confirm this would work? What quirks to expect? Thank you. P.S. I do have EXT4 on all disks, do not use BTRFS. So, no, I cannot "rollback". -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
stakanov.s composed on 2020-08-08 19:54 (UTC+0200):
15.2 is not working for me
What exactly does this mean? -- Evolution as taught in public schools, like religion, is based on faith, not on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 08/08/2020 20.04, Felix Miata wrote:
stakanov.s composed on 2020-08-08 19:54 (UTC+0200):
15.2 is not working for me
What exactly does this mean?
<https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2020-07/msg00402.html> -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On Sat 08 Aug 2020 07:54:36 PM CDT, stakanov.s wrote:
15.2 is not working for me, in order to have my working system back it is unfortunately necessary to downgrade to 15.1. In all these years that never happened to me, but for everything there is a first time. I would like to avoid a reinstall. With zypper dup --allow-vendor-change and setting all repos to 15.1, is there anybody able to confirm this would work? What quirks to expect?
Thank you.
P.S. I do have EXT4 on all disks, do not use BTRFS. So, no, I cannot "rollback".
Hi Same as the way to upgrade..... 15.1 to 15.2; zypper --releasever 15.2 dup 15.2 to 15.1 zypper --releasever 15.1 dup -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) Tumbleweed 20200806 | GNOME Shell 3.36.4 | 5.7.11-1-default Intel DQ77MK MB | Xeon E3-1245 V2 X8 @ 3.40 GHz | Intel/Nvidia up 4:27, 2 users, load average: 0.40, 0.66, 0.73 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
In data sabato 8 agosto 2020 20:08:18 CEST, Malcolm ha scritto:
On Sat 08 Aug 2020 07:54:36 PM CDT, stakanov.s wrote:
15.2 is not working for me, in order to have my working system back it is unfortunately necessary to downgrade to 15.1. In all these years that never happened to me, but for everything there is a first time. I would like to avoid a reinstall. With zypper dup --allow-vendor-change and setting all repos to 15.1, is there anybody able to confirm this would work? What quirks to expect?
Thank you.
P.S. I do have EXT4 on all disks, do not use BTRFS. So, no, I cannot "rollback".
Hi Same as the way to upgrade.....
15.1 to 15.2; zypper --releasever 15.2 dup
15.2 to 15.1 zypper --releasever 15.1 dup
Thank you, this is one information that I forgot, releaserver requires a preliminary command to convert the repos, do you know by any chance which one it was? (Sorry, this is a new install of 15.2 because the first did break immediately, so all the settings of root were gone with it, only home survived). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat 08 Aug 2020 08:23:03 PM CDT, stakanov.s wrote: <snip>
15.2 to 15.1 zypper --releasever 15.1 dup
Thank you, this is one information that I forgot, releaserver requires a preliminary command to convert the repos, do you know by any chance which one it was? (Sorry, this is a new install of 15.2 because the first did break immediately, so all the settings of root were gone with it, only home survived). Hi AFAIK if you run the above to downgrade it should switch them assuming just the default ones....
-- Cheers Malcolm °¿° SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) Tumbleweed 20200806 | GNOME Shell 3.36.4 | 5.7.11-1-default Intel DQ77MK MB | Xeon E3-1245 V2 X8 @ 3.40 GHz | Intel/Nvidia up 6:35, 2 users, load average: 0.69, 2.04, 1.97 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 2020-08-08 12:23 p.m., stakanov.s wrote:
In data sabato 8 agosto 2020 20:08:18 CEST, Malcolm ha scritto:
On Sat 08 Aug 2020 07:54:36 PM CDT, stakanov.s wrote:
15.2 is not working for me, in order to have my working system back it is unfortunately necessary to downgrade to 15.1.
15.2 to 15.1 zypper --releasever 15.1 dup
Thank you, this is one information that I forgot, releaserver requires a preliminary command to convert the repos, do you know by any chance which one it was?
zypper --releasever 15.1 refresh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 2020-08-08 3:56 p.m., Darryl Gregorash wrote:
On 2020-08-08 12:23 p.m., stakanov.s wrote:
In data sabato 8 agosto 2020 20:08:18 CEST, Malcolm ha scritto:
On Sat 08 Aug 2020 07:54:36 PM CDT, stakanov.s wrote:
15.2 is not working for me, in order to have my working system back it is unfortunately necessary to downgrade to 15.1.
15.2 to 15.1 zypper --releasever 15.1 dup
Thank you, this is one information that I forgot, releaserver requires a preliminary command to convert the repos, do you know by any chance which one it was?
zypper --releasever 15.1 refresh
Oops, those commands are not quite correct. Proper syntax is "--releasever=15.1" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
Am Samstag, 8. August 2020, 20:23:03 CEST schrieb stakanov.s:
In data sabato 8 agosto 2020 20:08:18 CEST, Malcolm ha scritto:
On Sat 08 Aug 2020 07:54:36 PM CDT, stakanov.s wrote:
15.2 is not working for me, in order to have my working system back it is unfortunately necessary to downgrade to 15.1. In all these years that never happened to me, but for everything there is a first time. I would like to avoid a reinstall. With zypper dup --allow-vendor-change and setting all repos to 15.1, is there anybody able to confirm this would work? What quirks to expect?
Thank you.
P.S. I do have EXT4 on all disks, do not use BTRFS. So, no, I cannot "rollback".
Hi Same as the way to upgrade.....
15.1 to 15.2; zypper --releasever 15.2 dup
15.2 to 15.1 zypper --releasever 15.1 dup
Thank you, this is one information that I forgot, releaserver requires a preliminary command to convert the repos, do you know by any chance which one it was?
Your repositories need to work on the variable $releasever, so if you still have hard-wired releases it will not work. Either check manually (YaST maybe) or convert all in one: sed -i -e 's/15.2/\$releasever/g' /etc/zypp/repos.d/*.repo The following should set your releaseversion: echo "15.1" >/etc/zypp/vars.d/releasever The proceed with zypper dup -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 08/08/2020 20.23, stakanov.s wrote:
In data sabato 8 agosto 2020 20:08:18 CEST, Malcolm ha scritto:
On Sat 08 Aug 2020 07:54:36 PM CDT, stakanov.s wrote:
15.2 is not working for me, in order to have my working system back it is unfortunately necessary to downgrade to 15.1. In all these years that never happened to me, but for everything there is a first time. I would like to avoid a reinstall. With zypper dup --allow-vendor-change and setting all repos to 15.1, is there anybody able to confirm this would work?
/May/ work. Most probably it will work, but I don't think it is supported, as in tested scenario. What to expect? I don't know.
What quirks to expect?
Thank you.
P.S. I do have EXT4 on all disks, do not use BTRFS. So, no, I cannot "rollback".
Hi Same as the way to upgrade.....
15.1 to 15.2; zypper --releasever 15.2 dup
15.2 to 15.1 zypper --releasever 15.1 dup
Thank you, this is one information that I forgot, releaserver requires a preliminary command to convert the repos, do you know by any chance which one it was? (Sorry, this is a new install of 15.2 because the first did break immediately, so all the settings of root were gone with it, only home survived).
If it is a new install, probably your repos are already set in the correct way. Just check it yourself: cer@Telcontar:~> ls /etc/zypp/repos.d/ ... OBS_security.repo OBS_security_chipcard.repo OBS_server_mail.repo OBS_utilities.repo Trabajo download.opensuse.org-non-oss.repo download.opensuse.org-non-oss_update.repo download.opensuse.org-oss.repo download.opensuse.org-oss_update.repo google-chrome.repo openSUSE_Leap_15.1_Update.repo opensuse-guide.org-repo.repo repo-debug-non-oss.repo repo-debug-update-non-oss.repo repo-debug-update.repo repo-debug.repo repo-source-non-oss.repo repo-source.repo cer@Telcontar:~> Check *every* one of those files. Do: grep baseurl /etc/zypp/repos.d/*repo to see them. Or, one by one: cer@Telcontar:~> cat /etc/zypp/repos.d/download.opensuse.org-non-oss.repo [download.opensuse.org-non-oss] name=Main Repository (NON-OSS) enabled=1 autorefresh=1 baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.1/repo/non-oss/ path=/ type=rpm-md keeppackages=1 cer@Telcontar:~> For example, the above is not ready. Change: baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.1/repo/non-oss/ baseurl=http://opensuse-guide.org/repo/openSUSE_Leap_15.1/ to: baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/$releasever/repo/non-oss/ baseurl=http://opensuse-guide.org/repo/openSUSE_Leap_$releasever/ Notice that there is another method: download the 15.1 full DVD, boot it, and choose upgrade. You may have to fiddle with the repos in advance, though. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 8/9/20 3:24 AM, stakanov.s wrote:
15.2 is not working for me, in order to have my working system back it is unfortunately necessary to downgrade to 15.1. In all these years that never happened to me, but for everything there is a first time. I would like to avoid a reinstall. With zypper dup --allow-vendor-change and setting all repos to 15.1, is there anybody able to confirm this would work? What quirks to expect?
Thank you.
P.S. I do have EXT4 on all disks, do not use BTRFS. So, no, I cannot "rollback".
Rolling back would be the only officially supported way, when you upgrade packages sometimes they migrate / move config files etc or perform other migrations. The packages are all designed and tested to work in the "upgrade" case, but none have handling for the downgrade case. So it is somewhat likely that performing a downgrade will break your system in other way that may not be noticeable at first. Without rollbacks I would not try this. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B
On 10/08/2020 02.55, Simon Lees wrote:
On 8/9/20 3:24 AM, stakanov.s wrote:
15.2 is not working for me, in order to have my working system back it is unfortunately necessary to downgrade to 15.1. In all these years that never happened to me, but for everything there is a first time. I would like to avoid a reinstall. With zypper dup --allow-vendor-change and setting all repos to 15.1, is there anybody able to confirm this would work? What quirks to expect?
Thank you.
P.S. I do have EXT4 on all disks, do not use BTRFS. So, no, I cannot "rollback".
Rolling back would be the only officially supported way,
Besides restoring the backup ;-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
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