[opensuse-support] ImageWriter
Trying to write an iso to a usb drive. Starting Imagewriter, usb drive shows for selection of drive to write to. Clicking on the correct ISO file imagewriter responds with- Sorry I can't write this iso. You need to use another program to write it to a DVD. OK so what the..........I selected the USB drive....bug ? Tumbleweed with latest updates. mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
Le 16/01/2019 à 18:30, mike a écrit :
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did you verify the iso md5sum? jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 1/16/19 12:37 PM, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Le 16/01/2019 à 18:30, mike a écrit :
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did you verify the iso md5sum?
jdd
Well no and the reason is that it is a windows 10 iso and I tried like 20 minutes chatting with microsoft support trying to get a checksum ,about 6 months back and I was unable to obtain one as they didn't seem to understand what I wanted... Is there a way to verify the file in linux any other way? I will redown it though.... mike
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On 16/01/2019 18:51, mike wrote:
Well no and the reason is that it is a windows 10 iso and I tried like 20 minutes chatting with microsoft
FWIW I have found that it is best to use a Windows tool to write Win10 ISOs. I normally use Rufus. Several of my regular image-writing tools for Linux failed to make bootable media: Unetbootin, plain ``dd'' etc.
Is there a way to verify the file in linux any other way?
Not completely, no, I don't think, but could mount the image and check the filesystem.
I will redown it though....
Best bet, probably. -- Liam Proven - Technical Writer, SUSE Linux s.r.o. Corso II, Křižíkova 148/34, 186-00 Praha 8 - Karlín, Czechia Email: lproven@suse.com - Office telephone: +420 284 241 084 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 1/16/19 1:06 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
On 16/01/2019 18:51, mike wrote:
Well no and the reason is that it is a windows 10 iso and I tried like 20 minutes chatting with microsoft FWIW I have found that it is best to use a Windows tool to write Win10 ISOs. I normally use Rufus. Several of my regular image-writing tools for Linux failed to make bootable media: Unetbootin, plain ``dd'' etc.
OK I found another tool...WoeUSB...opensuse version, simple gui...so when I tried to use it complains that FAT32 does not support files over 4 GB. However I formatted the usb as ntfs. And so I was assuming the usb would be formatted as to the ISO. So why would this issue arise?
Is there a way to verify the file in linux any other way? Not completely, no, I don't think, but could mount the image and check the filesystem.
I will redown it though.... Best bet, probably.
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Le 16/01/2019 à 19:16, mike a écrit :
However I formatted the usb as ntfs. And so I was assuming the usb would be formatted
uh... you a fully wrong, here! if you try to make a bootable usb drive, the iso will *recover* anything in the usb pen drive, no format necessary I dunno if linux can create a bootable usb pen for windows, try dd, if it don't works you may need a windows machine and rufus if works with k3b and real dvd jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch, 16. Januar 2019, 19:06:15 CET schrieb Liam Proven:
On 16/01/2019 18:51, mike wrote:
Well no and the reason is that it is a windows 10 iso and I tried like 20 minutes chatting with microsoft
FWIW I have found that it is best to use a Windows tool to write Win10 ISOs. I normally use Rufus. Several of my regular image-writing tools for Linux failed to make bootable media: Unetbootin, plain ``dd'' etc.
I dont think an ISO cares what content it has...k3b works as last resort to burn ISO to DVD. For Windows-Images as well. Regarding Imagewriter, I'm not sure, but I think I remember that it toastet ISO images to USB sticks. Will test tomorrow Cheers Axel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 1/16/19 4:56 PM, Axel Braun wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 16. Januar 2019, 19:06:15 CET schrieb Liam Proven:
On 16/01/2019 18:51, mike wrote:
Well no and the reason is that it is a windows 10 iso and I tried like 20 minutes chatting with microsoft
FWIW I have found that it is best to use a Windows tool to write Win10 ISOs. I normally use Rufus. Several of my regular image-writing tools for Linux failed to make bootable media: Unetbootin, plain ``dd'' e I dont think an ISO cares what content it has...k3b works as last resort to burn ISO to DVD. For Windows-Images as well.
I thought that too, that's why I was wondering why I was having problems. I ended up using Rufus on a windows laptop. That appears to have worked..
Regarding Imagewriter, I'm not sure, but I think I remember that it toastet ISO images to USB sticks. Will test tomorrow
thanks....
Cheers Axel
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Am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2019, 01:34:00 CET schrieb mike:
Regarding Imagewriter, I'm not sure, but I think I remember that it toastet ISO images to USB sticks. Will test tomorrow
thanks....
So...I used imagewriter 1.1.0 on a fully patched Leap 15, and wrote Leap 15 NET ISO image onto a 8GB stick. Worked like a charm. Apparently the root cause for your problem must be a different one: - Image corrupted - Stick too small - .... HTH Axel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 1/17/19 3:06 AM, Axel Braun wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2019, 01:34:00 CET schrieb mike:
Regarding Imagewriter, I'm not sure, but I think I remember that it toastet ISO images to USB sticks. Will test tomorrow thanks.... So...I used imagewriter 1.1.0 on a fully patched Leap 15, and wrote Leap 15 NET ISO image onto a 8GB stick. Worked like a charm. congrats....well I'm on tumbleweed
Apparently the root cause for your problem must be a different one: - Image corrupted no because it worked on a windows laptop - Stick too small the usb drive is 32 gigs and the iso is 4.7 gigs - ....
HTH Axel
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Am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2019, 17:12:35 CET schrieb mike:
On 1/17/19 3:06 AM, Axel Braun wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2019, 01:34:00 CET schrieb mike:
Regarding Imagewriter, I'm not sure, but I think I remember that it toastet ISO images to USB sticks. Will test tomorrow
thanks....
So...I used imagewriter 1.1.0 on a fully patched Leap 15, and wrote Leap 15 NET ISO image onto a 8GB stick. Worked like a charm.
congrats....well I'm on tumbleweed
No issues either. Found a 13.2 KDE Live ISO on my laptop running TW....imagewriter 1.10 brought it onto the 8GB stick /Ax -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2019, 17:12:35 CET schrieb mike:
On 1/17/19 3:06 AM, Axel Braun wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2019, 01:34:00 CET schrieb mike:
Regarding Imagewriter, I'm not sure, but I think I remember that it toastet ISO images to USB sticks. Will test tomorrow
thanks....
So...I used imagewriter 1.1.0 on a fully patched Leap 15, and wrote Leap 15 NET ISO image onto a 8GB stick. Worked like a charm.
congrats....well I'm on tumbleweed
No issues either. Found a 13.2 KDE Live ISO on my laptop running TW....imagewriter 1.10 brought it onto the 8GB stick PS: Obviously my assumption, that the ISO Format should not care what is inside the ISO, is wrong. Found a Win7SP1_pro ISO and tried to toast this - does not work! So you should file a bug against Imagewriter! Cheers Axel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2019, 17:12:35 CET schrieb mike:
On 1/17/19 3:06 AM, Axel Braun wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2019, 01:34:00 CET schrieb mike:
Regarding Imagewriter, I'm not sure, but I think I remember that it toastet ISO images to USB sticks. Will test tomorrow
thanks....
So...I used imagewriter 1.1.0 on a fully patched Leap 15, and wrote Leap 15 NET ISO image onto a 8GB stick. Worked like a charm.
congrats....well I'm on tumbleweed
No issues either. Found a 13.2 KDE Live ISO on my laptop running TW....imagewriter 1.10 brought it onto the 8GB stick
PS: Obviously my assumption, that the ISO Format should not care what is inside the ISO, is wrong. Found a Win7SP1_pro ISO and tried to toast this - does not work! So you should file a bug against Imagewriter!
Cheers Axel Tested here too with Tumbleweed and Leap ISO's and working fine. But in the
Op donderdag 17 januari 2019 17:38:48 CET schreef Axel Braun: past I've had USB sticks that needed wiping their partition table with dd before imagewriter could write a new image properly. Replace X with the device letter of your USB stick dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=1M count=100 -- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2019, 17:43:05 CET schrieb Knurpht-openSUSE:
PS: Obviously my assumption, that the ISO Format should not care what is inside the ISO, is wrong. Found a Win7SP1_pro ISO and tried to toast this - does not work! So you should file a bug against Imagewriter!
Cheers Axel
Tested here too with Tumbleweed and Leap ISO's and working fine. But in the past I've had USB sticks that needed wiping their partition table with dd before imagewriter could write a new image properly. Replace X with the device letter of your USB stick dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=1M count=100
Did not change the result in this case. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 1/17/19 11:59 AM, Axel Braun wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2019, 17:43:05 CET schrieb Knurpht-openSUSE:
PS: Obviously my assumption, that the ISO Format should not care what is inside the ISO, is wrong. Found a Win7SP1_pro ISO and tried to toast this - does not work! So you should file a bug against Imagewriter!
Cheers Axel Tested here too with Tumbleweed and Leap ISO's and working fine. But in the past I've had USB sticks that needed wiping their partition table with dd before imagewriter could write a new image properly. Replace X with the device letter of your USB stick dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=1M count=100
well I usually use gparted to delete the partition and reformat if necessary, you think dd is better?
Did not change the result in this case.
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On 17/01/2019 17:38, Axel Braun wrote:
PS: Obviously my assumption, that the ISO Format should not care what is inside the ISO, is wrong. Found a Win7SP1_pro ISO and tried to toast this - does not work! So you should file a bug against Imagewriter!
I *think* it's not that, it's the removable-medium boot sector that's the problem. Linux tools know how to write a Linux-compatible boot sector but it's not compatible with modern, both-BIOS-and-UEFI-capable Windows. Back in the XP era, UEFI & GPT (and even SATA) were not yet issues, everything was MBR & BIOS only, but of course MS didn't make official ISO images available back then. (IIRC WinXP only supported SATA and USB 2 after Service Pack 2.) Unfortunately the advent of GPT disks, while simplifying partitioning, has made booting considerably more complex, and while I cannot prove that Microsoft *intentionally* set out to make life more difficult for FOSS software creators, my very strong suspicion is that Microsoft would be very happy with anything that inconvenienced them. Enterprise vendors who can pay for signed bootloaders have less problem with this. Apple adopted UEFI earlier, even on its early x86 kit which was 32-bit only, but then Apple does not really care about booting anything else. Apple kit is solely designed to run macOS and (later) to dual-boot macOS and Windows. Non-macOS Unix people are on their own. -- Liam Proven - Technical Writer, SUSE Linux s.r.o. Corso II, Křižíkova 148/34, 186-00 Praha 8 - Karlín, Czechia Email: lproven@suse.com - Office telephone: +420 284 241 084 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 1/17/19 1:00 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
PS: Obviously my assumption, that the ISO Format should not care what is inside the ISO, is wrong. Found a Win7SP1_pro ISO and tried to toast this - does not work! So you should file a bug against Imagewriter! I *think* it's not that, it's the removable-medium boot sector that's
On 17/01/2019 17:38, Axel Braun wrote: the problem. Linux tools know how to write a Linux-compatible boot sector but it's not compatible with modern, both-BIOS-and-UEFI-capable Windows.
Back in the XP era, UEFI & GPT (and even SATA) were not yet issues, everything was MBR & BIOS only, but of course MS didn't make official ISO images available back then.
(IIRC WinXP only supported SATA and USB 2 after Service Pack 2.)
Unfortunately the advent of GPT disks, while simplifying partitioning, has made booting considerably more complex, and while I cannot prove that Microsoft *intentionally* set out to make life more difficult for FOSS software creators, my very strong suspicion is that Microsoft would be very happy with anything that inconvenienced them. Enterprise vendors who can pay for signed bootloaders have less problem with this.
Apple adopted UEFI earlier, even on its early x86 kit which was 32-bit only, but then Apple does not really care about booting anything else. Apple kit is solely designed to run macOS and (later) to dual-boot macOS and Windows. Non-macOS Unix people are on their own.
This sounds plausable to me because when I used a windows system to write it the first thing it did was write a partition for uefi,,,,,,,
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* mike <furryllama@comcast.net> [01-17-19 11:15]:
On 1/17/19 3:06 AM, Axel Braun wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2019, 01:34:00 CET schrieb mike:
Regarding Imagewriter, I'm not sure, but I think I remember that it toastet ISO images to USB sticks. Will test tomorrow thanks.... So...I used imagewriter 1.1.0 on a fully patched Leap 15, and wrote Leap 15 NET ISO image onto a 8GB stick. Worked like a charm. congrats....well I'm on tumbleweed
that should make absolutely no difference
Apparently the root cause for your problem must be a different one: - Image corrupted no because it worked on a windows laptop - Stick too small the usb drive is 32 gigs and the iso is 4.7 gigs - ....
HTH Axel
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Le 16/01/2019 à 18:51, mike a écrit :
Well no and the reason is that it is a windows 10 iso and I
not sure impagewriter can writer windows 10 iso may be simply use dd? jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch, 16. Januar 2019, 18:30:27 CET schrieb mike:
Trying to write an iso to a usb drive. Starting Imagewriter, usb drive shows for selection of drive
to write to. Clicking on the correct ISO file imagewriter responds with- Sorry I can't write this iso. You need to
use another program to write it to a DVD.
OK so what the..........I selected the USB drive....bug ?
Tumbleweed with latest updates.
mike
I had this same problem with System Rescue CD a while ago, on their website they recommend to modify the iso with 'isohybrid' first[1]. After I did this, I could write System Rescue CD to a USB drive with the SUSE Studio Image Writer. Maybe it will work for you as well. [1] http://www.system-rescue-cd.org/Installing-SystemRescueCd-on-a-USB-stick/
On 1/16/19 6:08 PM, Maximilian Trummer wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 16. Januar 2019, 18:30:27 CET schrieb mike:
Trying to write an iso to a usb drive. Starting Imagewriter, usb drive shows for selection of drive
to write to. Clicking on the correct ISO file imagewriter responds with- Sorry I can't write this iso. You need to
use another program to write it to a DVD.
OK so what the..........I selected the USB drive....bug ?
Tumbleweed with latest updates.
mike
I had this same problem with System Rescue CD a while ago, on their website they recommend to modify the iso with 'isohybrid' first[1].
while I was looking for that I ran across "live-usb-gui" and installed it from repositories. I will have to try this also......
After I did this, I could write System Rescue CD to a USB drive with the SUSE Studio Image Writer. Maybe it will work for you as well.
[1] http://www.system-rescue-cd.org/Installing-SystemRescueCd-on-a-USB-stick/
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On 1/16/19 12:30 PM, mike wrote:
Trying to write an iso to a usb drive. Starting Imagewriter, usb drive shows for selection of drive
to write to. Clicking on the correct ISO file imagewriter responds with- Sorry I can't write this iso. You need to
use another program to write it to a DVD.
OK so what the..........I selected the USB drive....bug ?
Tumbleweed with latest updates.
mike
I believe ImageWriter only works with openSUSE iso's. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
Le 17/01/2019 à 18:07, Ken Schneider - openSUSE a écrit :
I believe ImageWriter only works with openSUSE iso's.
with hybrid isos, I guess jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org
On 16/01/2019 18.30, mike wrote:
Trying to write an iso to a usb drive. Starting Imagewriter, usb drive shows for selection of drive
to write to. Clicking on the correct ISO file imagewriter responds with- Sorry I can't write this iso. You need to
use another program to write it to a DVD.
OK so what the..........I selected the USB drive....bug ?
Tumbleweed with latest updates.
Suspicion: did the USB stick already had another ISO image written on it (even an incomplete one)? In that case, a quick check of the USB *may* say "this is a DVD". It would happen with the old openSUSE images, we had to erase the first few sectors first. Yes, this would be a bug in Imagewriter. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
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