On 2/4/21 10:31 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 05/02/2021 03.11, Doug McGarrett wrote:
J Leslie Turriff composed on 2021-02-03 20:18 (UTC-0600):
Felix Miata wrote:
...often... But not always Does often in any way equate to always? No, what it is, is a rough equivalent to
*not* always.
Debian and progeny often turn into a big waste of time with terms like apt, apt-get, apt-mark, apt-cache, aptitude, dpkg, adept, synaptic, full-upgrade, safe-upgrade, upgrade, dist-upgrade, do-release-upgrade, gdebi & dselect, not to mention absence of root login (in a standard installation: sudo). I miss something like synaptic, which was in the old PCLOS. Not only
On 2/4/21 2:48 AM, Felix Miata wrote: the names of apps, but a very brief description of what they were supposed to do. AFAIK, there is nothing in OpenSUSE that replaces it. Well, you are wrong, because YaST, zypper, and rpm can give you that brief description.
cer@Telcontar:~> rpm -qi glibc Name : glibc Version : 2.26 Release : lp152.26.3.1 Architecture: x86_64 Install Date: 2021-01-01T00:44:58 CET Group : System/Libraries Size : 6984505 License : LGPL-2.1+ AND SUSE-LGPL-2.1+-with-GCC-exception AND GPL-2.0+ Signature : RSA/SHA256, 2020-08-13T23:18:42 CEST, Key ID b88b2fd43dbdc284 Source RPM : glibc-2.26-lp152.26.3.1.src.rpm Build Date : 2020-08-13T23:13:23 CEST Build Host : cloud125 Relocations : (not relocatable) Packager : http://bugs.opensuse.org Vendor : openSUSE URL : http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/libc.html Summary : Standard Shared Libraries (from the GNU C Library) Description : The GNU C Library provides the most important standard libraries used by nearly all programs: the standard C library, the standard math library, and the POSIX thread library. A system is not functional without these libraries. Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.2 cer@Telcontar:~>
I think this misses the point. Suppose you never heard of Artha. If you had Synaptic, you could scroll thru it. You come to Artha. It says something like Thesaurus and dictionary. So you install it, find out you like it and keep it. If you didn't like it, you zapped it. Now you have only Yast, zypper, and rpm. How do you find Artha? (Well Firefox probably would find it, but that's cheating!) Also, for someone who has used apt-get install, it used to work here. What has been gained by removing it? Someone who has used Linux for years may expect to have that combination. Well, anyway, I learned something: I didn't realize that rpm could be used this way. But only if you know to ask about glibc. (For instance.) --doug