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On 2024-05-18 08:33, Felix Miata wrote:
-pj composed on 2024-05-17 23:47 (UTC-0500):
Felix Miata wrote: ...
I purged ruby3.2* on several installations manually after they were upgraded to ruby3.3* and left behind. Why zypper dup purged them itself on some and why on others not I never tried to determine.
Ok well then I will do so. Since zypper is not dpkg --purge one would pass -> # zypper rm ruby3.2 .........and so on right?
More or less. Zypper accepts wildcards to some degree. Bash completion helps minimize required typing, but it is frustrating to know Debian users have the autoremove advantage. ...
AFAIK, none of the DMs I am happy to use (not GDM; not SDDM) care in any way about graphics rendering configuration.
This is something that I did not realize before. I had tried XDM and then proceeded to go back to SDDM and learned of software render on GitLab after a month. So some say VTTY and some TTY. As for SDDM, its use hijacks vt1 & vt2 . I'll take your word for it right now. Is there something you can suggest I perhaps read on a bit about it? Obviously I am not an advanced user here.
The tradition amongst most distros for decades was to keep tty[1-6] available for text login sessions, and start the GUI DM on tty7, with any additional X sessions going to tty8, next tty9. The Gnome/GDM/systemd people several years ago decided this was no longer necessary, and moved GDM to tty1 (or tty2, I'm not sure which, as I never again installed GDM after the first time). The KDE devs played monkey see, monkey do on this. Neither group considered there to be any relevant disruption possible by this break in tradition. I have regular uses for tty1, tty2 & tty3, so no room for their intrusion into my workspaces.
I got that surprise in some machine somewhere. I can't remember where exactly, was over a year ago.
Ignoring my own uses, that tradition meant that when someone in a help forum was having X trouble, it was pretty much an unconditional given they could be told to Ctrl-Alt-F1 to reach a login prompt from which to attempt repairs and/or collect logs. That doesn't work at all when the greeter has usurped tty1. That made a lot of Google hits obsolete, or worse. TDM, KDM3 and XDM so far have remained on tty7. I think LightDM has too, but I'm not sure. It gets little use here.
The same concept works in general, as it always has, because any of tty3-6 at least are normally free & equally capable when the DM has conscripted 1 and/or 2.
-- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.5 x86_64 at Telcontar)