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On 05-17-2024 01:45AM, Felix Miata wrote:
-pj composed on 2024-05-16 23:37 (UTC-0500):
Felix Miata wrote:
and probably all but the brothers
in the list above. I don't believe there's any justification to continue having libKF5* or libKPim5* packages installed any more unless you purposely locked them so that they could not be upgraded or removed. Boost*1_84_0* has been upgraded to 1_85_0*. Highly likely incomplete zypper dup is the root cause of https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1224061.
I honestly do not think this is the case here (imcomplete zypper dup). What is the best way to check the "zypper dup" for completed status then? Passing zypper ve -> Dependencies of all installed packages are satisfied. Passing zypper ll -> no package locks are defined. ... There is a trade off on this situation with this machine in doing so now. Enabling software rendering allows me to navigate SDDM but creates a much less usable system tray/taskbar. Disabling software rendering (reverting to hardware rendering) now, nearly disables SDDM's display capability to select a different window manager or whatever else. It is much more difficult due to every option label displaying blank fields. I have been working a bit with the Enlightenment desktop on this machine directly after the 32 bit KDE Plasma P6 MEGARELEASE issues.
First get fully upgraded to latest i586 TW, then see how things are working.
Please tell me how to verify that the Tumbleweed snapshot on the machine is fully upgraded. Currently hostnamectl reports 20240515 .
Try just purging stuff you don't need and/or don't use:
zypper pa --unneeded
Then zealously remove....
Is there a need to create a snapshot before doing this (removing)?
:~> sudo zypper pa --unneeded [sudo] password for root: Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... S | Repository | Name | Version | Arch --+-----------------------+------------------------------------+---------------------+------- i | Main Repository (OSS) | accountsservice-lang | 23.13.9-8.1 | noarch i | Main Repository (OSS) | akonadi-plugin-contacts | 24.02.2-1.1 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | akonadi-plugin-mime | 24.02.2-1.1 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | akonadi-search | 24.02.2-1.1 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | baloo5-file | 5.115.0-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | baloo5-imports | 5.115.0-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | baloo5-kioslaves | 5.115.0-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | baloo5-tools | 5.115.0-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | bluez-qt-udev | 5.115.0-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | filelight | 24.02.2-1.1 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | frameworkintegration-plugin | 5.115.0-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | grantlee5 | 5.3.1-2.5 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | gsettings-desktop-schemas-lang | 46.0-2.1 | noarch i | Main Repository (OSS) | gtk2-immodule-amharic | 2.24.33-9.1 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | gtk2-immodule-inuktitut | 2.24.33-9.1 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | gtk2-immodule-thai | 2.24.33-9.1 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | gtk2-immodule-tigrigna | 2.24.33-9.1 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | gtk2-immodule-vietnamese | 2.24.33-9.1 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | kactivities5-imports | 5.115.0-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | kbd-legacy | 2.6.4-4.1 | noarch i | Main Repository (OSS) | kcmutils-imports | 5.115.0-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | kdelibs4support | 5.115.0-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | kio-extras5 | 24.02.2-1.1 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | knewstuff-imports | 5.115.0-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | kpeople5 | 5.115.0-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | kpipewire-imports | 5.27.11-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | kquickcharts | 5.115.0-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | kross | 5.115.0-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | ktexteditor | 5.115.0-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | kwallet-tools | 5.115.0-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | kwrited5 | 5.27.11-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | layer-shell-qt5 | 5.27.11-1.3 | i586 i | @System | libabsl2308_0_0 | 20230802.1-3.1 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libAppStreamQt5-3 | 1.0.3-1.1 | i586 i | @System | libboost_filesystem1_84_0 | 1.84.0-2.1 | i586 i | @System | libboost_iostreams1_84_0 | 1.84.0-2.1 | i586 i | @System | libboost_locale1_84_0 | 1.84.0-2.1 | i586 i | @System | libcbor0_10 | 0.10.2-1.4 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libchm0 | 0.40-25.4 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libetebase0 | 0.5.5-2.6 | i586 i | packman-essentials | libfaad2 | 2.10.1-1699.1.pm.15 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libibus-1_0-5 | 1.5.29-4.2 | i586 i | @System | libjxl0_9 | 0.9.2-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libkdecorations2-5 | 5.27.11-1.2 | i586 i | @System | libkerfuffle23 | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libKF5Cddb5 | 24.02.2-1.1 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libKF5CompactDisc5 | 24.02.2-1.1 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libKF5DAV5 | 5.115.0-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libKF5GlobalAccelPrivate5 | 5.115.0-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libKF5Holidays5 | 5.115.0-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libKF5KDcraw5 | 24.02.2-1.1 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libKF5KHtml5 | 5.115.0-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libKF5ModemManagerQt6 | 5.115.0-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libKF5NetworkManagerQt6 | 5.115.0-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libKF5NewStuffWidgets5 | 5.115.0-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libKF5Purpose5 | 5.115.0-2.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libKF5PurposeWidgets5 | 5.115.0-2.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libKF5Screen8 | 5.27.11-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libKF5Su5 | 5.115.0-1.2 | i586 i | @System | libKF5TextAutoCorrectionWidgets1 | 1.4.1-2.3 | i586 i | @System | libKF5TextGrammarCheck1 | 1.4.1-2.3 | i586 i | @System | libKF5TextTranslator1 | 1.4.1-2.3 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libKF5UnitConversion5 | 5.115.0-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libKGantt2 | 2.8.0-1.10 | i586 i | @System | libkgapi | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libkImageAnnotator-Qt5-0 | 0.7.1-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libkolabxml1 | 1.1.6-14.6 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libkomparediff2-5 | 24.02.2-1.1 | i586 i | @System | libKPim5AkonadiAgentBase5 | 23.08.4-1.4 | i586 i | @System | libKPim5AkonadiXml5 | 23.08.4-1.4 | i586 i | @System | libKPim5GAPICalendar5 | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 i | @System | libKPim5GAPIPeople5 | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 i | @System | libKPim5GAPITasks5 | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 i | @System | libKPim5KontactInterface5 | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 i | @System | libKPim5Libkdepim5 | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 i | @System | libKPim5Mime5 | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 i | @System | libKPim5PkPass5 | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 i | @System | libKPim5TextEdit5 | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libKPim6Gravatar6 | 24.02.2-1.1 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libKPim6IdentityManagementWidgets6 | 24.02.2-1.1 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libKPim6MailImporterAkonadi6 | 24.02.2-1.1 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libKPim6Tnef6 | 24.02.2-1.1 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libKScreenLocker5 | 5.27.11-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libkwalletbackend5-5 | 5.115.0-1.2 | i586 i | @System | liblastlog2-1 | 1.3.1-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libLLVM17 | 17.0.6-4.1 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libmetis5 | 5.1.0-11.1 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libpackagekitqt5-1 | 1.1.1-1.6 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libphonenumber8 | 8.13.30-1.6 | i586 i | @System | libpoppler133 | 23.12.0-1.3 | i586 i | @System | libpoppler134 | 24.02.0-1.1 | i586 i | @System | libprotobuf-lite25_1_0 | 25.1-9.7 | i586 i | @System | libprotobuf-lite25_2_0 | 25.2-10.1 | i586 i | @System | libprotobuf25_1_0 | 25.1-9.7 | i586 i | @System | libprotobuf25_2_0 | 25.2-10.1 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libqaccessibilityclient-qt5-0 | 0.6.0-1.1 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libqca-qt5-2 | 2.3.8+git1-1.4 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libqgpgme15 | 1.23.2-4.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libqt5-qdbus | 5.15.13+kde4-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libqt5-qtpaths | 5.15.13+kde4-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libqt5-qtvirtualkeyboard | 5.15.13+kde0-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libqt5-qtwayland | 5.15.13+kde60-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libqt5keychain1 | 0.14.2-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libQt5Sensors5 | 5.15.13+kde0-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libQt5WebView5 | 5.15.13+kde0-1.2 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libSDL2_image-2_0-0 | 2.8.2-1.5 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libsolv-tools | 0.7.29-1.1 | i586 i | @System | libSPIRV-Tools-2023_6_rc1 | 2023.6~rc1-1.4 | i586 i | @System | libvpx8 | 1.13.1-1.4 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | libXRes1 | 1.2.2-1.7 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | openconnect-lang | 9.12-3.1 | noarch i | Main Repository (OSS) | oxygen5-sounds | 5.27.10-1.3 | noarch i | Main Repository (OSS) | perl-HTTP-CookieJar | 0.014-1.8 | noarch i | Main Repository (OSS) | python311-setuptools | 69.0.3-1.2 | noarch i | Main Repository (OSS) | qca-qt5 | 2.3.8+git1-1.4 | i586 i | @System | ruby3.2-rubygem-cfa_grub2 | 2.0.0-1.8 | i586 i | @System | ruby3.2-rubygem-cheetah | 1.0.0-1.8 | i586 i | @System | ruby3.2-rubygem-fast_gettext | 2.3.0-1.3 | i586 i | @System | ruby3.2-rubygem-nokogiri | 1.15.5-1.8 | i586 i | @System | ruby3.2-rubygem-ruby-dbus | 0.23.1-2.3 | i586 i | @System | ruby3.2-rubygem-simpleidn | 0.2.1-1.8 | i586 i | Main Repository (OSS) | systemd-doc | 255.5-1.1 | noarch paul@localhost:~>
So you are saying to use zypper to remove each of the packages displayed above I think? ...
Should I continue using SDDM instead of GDM? It seems that using the KDE Plasma V6 MEGARELEASE on the machine in question may be out of the question for me🫥 and I will have to switch the Desktop Environment. I can use the hardware with X11 server and Enlightenment desktop with a learning curve it seems.
I categorize SDDM as evil here. Its use hijacks vt1 & vt2. BAAAD. I have only about two instances remaining on openSUSE. Everything else (triple digits) uses KDM3, TDM, XDM, or in just a very select few cases, LightDM.
Do you have over 100 machines there? I have switched the machine in question here to use XDM now. I cannot see the ability of XDM to allow to select a different X session or Window manager. So I used # update-alternatives --config default-xsession.desktop then I selected option three -> /usr/share/xsessions/plasma6.desktop I have turned off software rendering. Should I have compositing on or off? The taskbar is stable...just that big white box issue.
Consider shooting for something like what I have here for 32bits: # inxi -SMC System: Host: gx28c Kernel: 6.7.7-1-default arch: i686 bits: 32 Console: pty pts/1 Distro: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20240515 Machine: Type: Desktop System: Dell product: OptiPlex GX280 v: N/A serial: 2R0QS71 Mobo: Dell model: 0H8164 serial: ..CN6986155A0396. BIOS: Dell v: A08 date: 03/03/2006 CPU: Info: single core model: Intel Pentium 4 bits: 32 type: MT cache: L2: 1024 KiB Speed (MHz): avg: 2793 min/max: N/A cores: 1: 2793 2: 2793 # df / /home /usr/local Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda17 4839833 3977936 616105 87% / /dev/sda8 2402073 226809 2052369 10% /home /dev/sda10 1016488 789456 174823 82% /usr/local
I do not see which type of graphics but I see your CPU is 2 core p4 32 bit. Which is similar to the T2400 here in ways.
# zypper lr ... # | Alias | Enabled | GPG Check | URI --+----------+---------+-----------+------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | KDE3 | Yes | (r ) Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ 2 | Non-OSS | Yes | (r ) Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/ports/i586/tumbleweed/repo/non-oss 3 | OSS | Yes | (r ) Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/ports/i586/tumbleweed/repo/oss 4 | PackmanE | Yes | (r ) Yes | http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/packman/suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/Essentials 5 | Update | Yes | (r ) Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/ports/i586/update/tumbleweed/ 6 | openh264 | Yes | (r ) Yes | http://codecs.opensuse.org/openh264/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/
If I change the repos on the machine here to what you have provided above will I be more on track then? Do you suggest KDE3 (as per repo shown above) and not KDE5? KDE5 seemed to be working fairly decent I thought on this machine in question here.
# zypper --no-refresh se -si | grep 'tem Pac' | grep -v plication il | kernel-default | package | 6.7.7-1.1 | i586 | (System Packages) il | kernel-default | package | 6.6.11-1.1 | i586 | (System Packages) il | kernel-default | package | 6.5.9-3.1 | i586 | (System Packages) il | libtag1 | package | 1.13.1-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libvpx8 | package | 1.13.1-1.2 | i586 | (System Packages) il | xfsprogs | package | 6.1.1-1.1 | i586 | (System Packages)
Your list is not large at all. Why are you not using 6.8.9-1-pae ? Is it because of the matching with your report here -> https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1212696
# zypper --no-refresh se -si | egrep 'kde|plasma|sddm|gdm|lightdm|kdm' | grep -v block i+ | kde3-gwenview | package | 1.4.2-157.8 | i586 | KDE3 i+ | kde3-kcm_gtk | package | 0.7svn20070827-24.10 | i586 | KDE3 i | kde3-susetranslations | package | 12.1-24.4 | noarch | KDE3 i+ | kdeaddons3-kicker | package | 3.5.10-38.192 | i586 | KDE3 i+ | kdeadmin3 | package | 3.5.10-55.90 | i586 | KDE3 i+ | kdeartwork3 | package | 3.5.10-78.6 | i586 | KDE3 i | kdebase3 | package | 3.5.10.1-380.9 | i586 | KDE3 i+ | kdebase3-apps | package | 3.5.10.1-380.9 | i586 | KDE3 i+ | kdebase3-kdm | package | 3.5.10.1-380.9 | i586 | KDE3 i | kdebase3-ksysguardd | package | 3.5.10.1-380.9 | i586 | KDE3 i | kdebase3-runtime | package | 3.5.10.1-380.9 | i586 | KDE3 i+ | kdebase3-session | package | 3.5.10.1-380.9 | i586 | KDE3 i+ | kdebase3-SuSE | package | 11.3-106.5 | i586 | KDE3 i+ | kdebase3-SuSE-branding-openSUSE | package | 11.3-106.5 | i586 | KDE3 i+ | kdebase3-workspace | package | 3.5.10.1-380.9 | i586 | KDE3 i+ | kdegraphics3 | package | 3.5.10-166.8 | i586 | KDE3 i+ | kdegraphics3-pdf | package | 3.5.10-166.8 | i586 | KDE3 i | kdelibs3 | package | 3.5.10-267.11 | i586 | KDE3 i | kdelibs3-default-style | package | 3.5.10-267.11 | i586 | KDE3 i+ | kdemultimedia3 | package | 3.5.10.1-85.8 | i586 | KDE3 i+ | kdemultimedia3-mixer | package | 3.5.10.1-85.8 | i586 | KDE3 i+ | kdenetwork3-IRC | package | 3.5.10-159.5 | i586 | KDE3 i+ | kdeutils3 | package | 3.5.10-123.9 | i586 | KDE3 i | libQt5Core5 | package | 5.15.13+kde138-1.2 | i586 | Non-OSS i | libQt5DBus5 | package | 5.15.13+kde138-1.2 | i586 | Non-OSS i | libQt5Gui5 | package | 5.15.13+kde138-1.2 | i586 | Non-OSS i | libQt5Network5 | package | 5.15.13+kde138-1.2 | i586 | Non-OSS i | libQt5OpenGL5 | package | 5.15.13+kde138-1.2 | i586 | Non-OSS i | libQt5Svg5 | package | 5.15.13+kde6-1.2 | i586 | Non-OSS i | libQt5Test5 | package | 5.15.13+kde138-1.2 | i586 | Non-OSS i | libQt5Widgets5 | package | 5.15.13+kde138-1.2 | i586 | Non-OSS i | libQt5X11Extras5 | package | 5.15.13+kde0-1.2 | i586 | Non-OSS i+ | systemsettings-kde3 | package | 0.2-11.113 | i586 | KDE3 #
No Plasma, no SDDM, no GDM, no QT6, no Wayland, no Gnome, no bling, no bloat. Lotsa stuff that's been working for decades.
I have a long list of files when I pass the command above. Perhaps I could start from scratch with the repos you have illuminated above?
... not done, but need sleep now....
Very good of you to type this information out on this you are very helpful. I will continue and respond to your second message now.