16.03.2025 14:03, Dominique Leuenberger aka DimStar wrote:
Sorry for the to post...
I guess there is a difference for the solver if it's about packages the user has explicitly installed vs stuff that was Auto-selected for installation.
User picked things are 'kept, made to work with different deps' whereas auto installed stuff - especially with rm -u - is deemed no longer needed it nothing declare that dep.
Of course there is, but that is not the problem here. Removing python311 removes also jupyter packages. These packages have dependencies that are satisfied by any Python version (3.11, 3.12, 3.13), so when moving to Python 3.13 zypper did not install the corresponding 3.11 modules. The intention is to have the latest versions: # Any flavor is okay, but suggest the primary one for automatic zypper choice -- boo#1214354 Requires: python3dist(jupyterlab) = %{distversion} Suggests: python3-jupyterlab But as we have seen it works only during initial installation, not during update/migrating to the new Python version. As I said earlier, I do not know whether it should be considered a bug, but it certainly is not the expected behavior. It is quite possible that there are other similar dependencies that trigger this snowball effect with --clean-deps.
That's only a hunch - zypper se $pkg for different ones should be able to confirm this for OPs system (first column I vs I+)
Cheers Dominique
Am 16. März 2025 08:09:36 MEZ schrieb -pj <pj.opensuse@gmx.com>:
On 3/14/25 2:52 AM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 3:10 AM -pj <pj.opensuse@gmx.com> wrote:
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Ok, '$ sudo zypper -vvv rm python311-base' > https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/2f97b25d1309
The following 255 packages are going to be REMOVED: jupyter-ipyparallel 9.0.0-1.2 noarch openSUSE jupyter-jupyterlab 4.3.5-1.2 noarch openSUSE jupyter-jupyterlab-widgets 3.0.13-2.4 noarch openSUSE jupyter-lsp 2.2.5-1.4 noarch openSUSE jupyter-nbclassic 1.1.0-2.2 noarch openSUSE jupyter-notebook 7.3.1-1.3 noarch openSUSE jupyter-notebook-shim 0.2.4-1.5 noarch openSUSE jupyter-widgetsnbextension 4.0.13-1.4 noarch openSUSE
Well, those should not be there. Can you run
zypper rm --debug-solver python311-base
and make available /var/log/zypper.solverTestCase (tar/zip/whatever).
Ok, zypper.solverTestCase.gz is available here. > https://c.gmx.com/@979853684072518786/0N_0pDwXV_ODsrtXCGNycA
The apparent reason why zypper removes these packages is the lack of the corresponding Python 3.13 modules. I.e. jupyter-notebook requires the python3dist(notebook) which is provided by
andrei@tumbleweed:~> zypper search --provides -x 'python3dist(notebook)' Loading repository data... Reading installed packages...
S | Name | Summary | Type ---+--------------------+----------------------------+-------- | python311-notebook | Jupyter Notebook interface | package | python312-notebook | Jupyter Notebook interface | package | python313-notebook | Jupyter Notebook interface | package andrei@tumbleweed:~>
You have the python311-notebook but not the python313-notebook.
Normally I would expect that when the default Python version is advanced, for all installed Python modules the versions matching the default are also installed. Looks like it happens for some, but not for all packages. Can you show
rpm -qa python311-\* | sort rpm -qa python313-\* | sort
Ok, $ rpm -qa python311-\* | sort https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/fdfd968cf0dc
Ok, $ rpm -qa python313-\* | sort https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/553eb82d194e