This arose because I recently have been seeing unexpected characters replacing box drawing characters in MC and various utility output, e.g. systemd-analyze critical-chain # set | grep LC_ | wc -m 1950 # set | grep LC_ makes what amounts to a lot of litter, apparently including few or no line feeds. On a vtty login: # locale LANG=POSIX LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC="POSIX" LC_TIME="POSIX" LC_COLLATE="POSIX" LC_MONETARY="POSIX" LC_MESSAGES="POSIX" LC_PAPER="POSIX" LC_NAME="POSIX" LC_ADDRESS="POSIX" LC_TELEPHONE="POSIX" LC_MEASUREMENT="POSIX" LC_IDENTIFICATION="POSIX" LC_ALL= # In Plasma in XTerm or Konsole: # locale LANG=POSIX LC_CTYPE=POSIX LC_NUMERIC="POSIX" LC_TIME="POSIX" LC_COLLATE="POSIX" LC_MONETARY="POSIX" LC_MESSAGES="POSIX" LC_PAPER="POSIX" LC_NAME="POSIX" LC_ADDRESS="POSIX" LC_TELEPHONE="POSIX" LC_MEASUREMENT="POSIX" LC_IDENTIFICATION="POSIX" LC_ALL= # 1-why the difference? 2-is there a "correct" set of values for someone who reads, writes and understands only English? 3-Do root's default values normally differ from other users? 4-what initializes the values? 5-what's an ideal or optimal way to deviate from any of the defaults: A: per user? B: globally? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata