-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 16/12/2019 04.47, tomas.kuchta.lists@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks everyone for all the answers and discussion.
I appreciate your time, so little introduction.
--------------------------------------------- I am personally using openSuSE since 7.0, coming from Solaris/SunOS. I used to run small engineering/scientific cluster based on SLE 9-12 for about 7 years until 2012. It involved the usual NIS/NFS/LDAP/grid manger/backup/disaster recovery.
I am definitely not social media connected - I do not have the time - but I read a lot of technical cloud/IT stuff - openSuSE and SLE documentation is pretty good end there are excellent DevOps and cloud native resources available.
As a user - I need modern Linux distro and recent LTS kernel for work and pleasure. It does not have to be bleeding edge, but needs to be aligned to computing HW release cycle.
Alternate early spring, late autumn openSuSE releases with end of year kernel used to be the ideal choice for my needs. There used to be a lot of great enterprise IT quality solutions on SDB - perhaps it was easier to contribute them with the website account. These days, I workaround old-ish 4.12 kernel by riding multiple distros - using openSuSE mainly for infrastructure and in the clouds.
Thumbeleweed is not for me - constantly breaking stuff - eats my precious time from the work/hobby I love - I also use commercial SW which mostly does not work in TW.
I automate builds and deployments with ansible, so, upgrading yearly-ish is not a lot of trouble. Upgrading once per 3 years as with Ubuntu LTS, on the other hand is pain due to the volume of accumulated change.
The current system with Leap is that it is aligned to the enterprise version. This means that when they release version 16, openSUSE will do 16.0, and this is a major upgrade for the core. This happens every few years. Meanwhile there are minor upgrades, like 15.1, 15.2, 15.3, perhaps 15.4 or 16.0. Seems to be once a year. These minor upgrades seem to be easy and painless with zypper dup. The core of openSUSE comes from SLES. Maybe ⅓ or ¼ of the packages. Gnomre is core, KDE is not, so it comes from the community and the versions are rather recent.
When 15.1 came out, I was traveling a lot for work, so I missed the switch - no news/reminder of 15.0 EOL made me wake up - leading to this post.
There is an announcement mail list: [security-announce] [opensuse-announce] <==
I used to habitually check openSuSE web site for news every few weeks. It worked quite well and it was hubris free. This approach, obviously, does not work anymore - so I talked to Richard Brown about it in a conference 2 years ago and he recommended this relatively low traffic email list.
I kind of hoped that over time, I would stumble on some little not to time taxing way of contributing back - beside filing reasonably good bug reports about things I feel are meaningful to the distro.
In time, I would love to add persistent storage to installation iso to make it headless capable. And/Or contribute some of my hacks/improvements to RMT - that would be my cup a tea. So, far I did not find viable pathway in. Viable means - I need some basic introduction to be successful and fit within my time constraints.
The XFCE iso (rescue image) has persistent storage, but at least in the past it was not installable.
Hope this adds outside voice, Tomas
Thanks. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXfdsywAKCRC1MxgcbY1H 1em1AJ90hnYNkKzhLoP0xJwwb2ghU2ebhwCferuR2ygMQdagVvJMeY/ytc7q3qc= =+GIq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org