On 05-16-2024 01:26AM, Felix Miata wrote:
-pj composed on 2024-05-16 00:35 (UTC-0500):
Felix Miata wrote: ...
I suggest to run
zypper --no-refresh se -si | grep 'tem Pac' | grep -v plication
to ensure you don't have v5 KDE or any other stale packages remaining installed.
I do not see anything related to v5 KDE on the machine. How are the stale packages displayed?
*KF5* is one of KDE5's packaging strings. I would consider "stale" a pseudonym for "System Packages":
Ok
:~> sudo zypper --no-refresh se -si | grep 'tem Pac' | grep -v plication
[sudo] password for root: i | boost-license1_84_0 | package | 1.84.0-2.1 | noarch | (System Packages) i+ | brscan-skey | package | 0.3.2-0 | i386 | (System Packages) i+ | brscan4 | package | 0.4.11-1 | i386 | (System Packages)
No one can avoid (System Packages) applied to Brother printer packages. Just pretend you didn't see them.
Yes, I know of brscan-skey and brscan4 related to brother but boost-license1_84_0 provides -> Boost provides free peer-reviewed portable C++ source libraries.
i+ | kernel-pae | package | 6.8.8-1.1 | i686 | (System Packages) i+ | kernel-pae | package | 6.7.7-1.1 | i686 | (System Packages) i+ | kernel-pae | package | 6.7.6-1.1 | i686 | (System Packages)
These are so marked because they are no longer available from standard or any other enabled repos.
Yes, marked as installed by user request I think because I modified /etc/zypp/zypp.conf file to -> multiversion.kernels' (*entry*) = latest,latest-1,latest-2,latest-3,latest-4,latest-5,latest-6,latest-7,latest-8,latest-9,running
i | libabsl2308_0_0 | package |20230802.1-3.1 | i586 | (System Packages)
I think this is the first to suggest your last zypper dup didn't finish.
This is somewhat unexpected news to hear from you about this. I believe that I *did* wait for the "zypper dup" to finish completely. To be certain I powercycled and completed another "zypper dup" on the machine once again today. I would like to also add the following is currently also set in /etc/zypp/zypp.conf -> commit.downloadMode = DownloadAsNeeded
i | libboost_filesystem1_84_0 | package | 1.84.0-2.1 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libboost_iostreams1_84_0 | package | 1.84.0-2.1 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libboost_locale1_84_0 | package | 1.84.0-2.1 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libboost_thread1_84_0 | package | 1.84.0-2.1 | i586 | (System Packages) i+ | libcamera-base0_1 | package | 0.1.0-1.2 | i586 | (System Packages) i+ | libcamera0_1 | package | 0.1.0-1.2 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libcbor0_10 | package | 0.10.2-1.4 | i586 | (System Packages) i+ | libdvdcss2 | package | 1.4.3+3-10.3| i586 | (System Packages) i | libjxl0_9 | package | 0.9.2-1.2 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libkerfuffle23 | package | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKF5TextAddonsWidgets1 | package | 1.4.1-2.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKF5TextAutoCorrectionCore1 | package | 1.4.1-2.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKF5TextAutoCorrectionWidgets1 | package | 1.4.1-2.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKF5TextEditTextToSpeech1 | package | 1.4.1-2.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKF5TextEmoticonsCore1 | package | 1.4.1-2.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKF5TextEmoticonsWidgets1 | package | 1.4.1-2.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKF5TextGrammarCheck1 | package | 1.4.1-2.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKF5TextTranslator1 | package | 1.4.1-2.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libkgapi | package | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKPim5AkonadiAgentBase5 | package | 23.08.4-1.4 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKPim5AkonadiCore5 | package | 23.08.4-1.4 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKPim5AkonadiPrivate5 | package | 23.08.4-1.4 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKPim5AkonadiWidgets5 | package | 23.08.4-1.4 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKPim5AkonadiXml5 | package | 23.08.4-1.4 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKPim5GAPICalendar5 | package | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKPim5GAPICore5 | package | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKPim5GAPIPeople5 | package | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKPim5GAPITasks5 | package | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKPim5KontactInterface5 | package | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKPim5Libkdepim5 | package | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKPim5Mime5 | package | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKPim5PkPass5 | package | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKPim5TextEdit5 | package | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | liblastlog2-1 | package | 1.3.1-1.2 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libpoppler133 | package | 23.12.0-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libpoppler134 | package | 24.02.0-1.1 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libprotobuf-lite25_1_0 | package | 25.1-9.7 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libprotobuf-lite25_2_0 | package | 25.2-10.1 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libprotobuf25_1_0 | package | 25.1-9.7 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libprotobuf25_2_0 | package | 25.2-10.1 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libruby3_2-3_2 | package | 3.2.2-4.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libSPIRV-Tools-2023_6_rc1 | package | 2023.6~rc1-1.4| i586 | (System Packages) i | libvpx8 | package | 1.13.1-1.4 | i586 | (System Packages) i+ | mfcj485dwcupswrapper | package | 1.0.0-0 | i386 | (System Packages) i+ | mfcj485dwlpr | package | 1.0.0-0 | i386 | (System Packages) ^ more Brother. i | ruby3.2 | package | 3.2.2-4.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | ruby3.2-rubygem-abstract_method | package | 1.2.1-2.8 | i586 | (System Packages) i | ruby3.2-rubygem-cfa | package | 1.0.2-1.8 | i586 | (System Packages) i | ruby3.2-rubygem-cfa_grub2 | package | 2.0.0-1.8 | i586 | (System Packages) i | ruby3.2-rubygem-cheetah | package | 1.0.0-1.8 | i586 | (System Packages) i | ruby3.2-rubygem-fast_gettext | package | 2.3.0-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | ruby3.2-rubygem-gem2rpm | package | 0.10.1-22.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | ruby3.2-rubygem-nokogiri | package | 1.15.5-1.8 | i586 | (System Packages) i | ruby3.2-rubygem-ruby-augeas | package | 0.5.0-3.8 | i586 | (System Packages) i | ruby3.2-rubygem-ruby-dbus | package | 0.23.1-2.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | ruby3.2-rubygem-simpleidn | package | 0.2.1-1.8 | i586 | (System Packages) i | ruby3.2-rubygem-unf | package | 0.1.4-1.8 | i586 | (System Packages) i | ruby3.2-rubygem-unf_ext | package | 0.0.9.1-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages)
zypper dup should have removed the ruby3.2s by now,
I just envoked another "zypper dup" then passed (without sudo) -> zypper --no-refresh se -si | grep 'tem Pac' | grep -v plication paul@localhost:~> sudo zypper dup [sudo] password for root: Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Warning: You are about to do a distribution upgrade with all enabled repositories. Make sure these repositories are compatible before you continue. See 'man zypper' for more info rmation about this command. Computing distribution upgrade... Nothing to do. paul@localhost:~> zypper --no-refresh se -si | grep 'tem Pac' | grep -v plication i | boost-license1_84_0 | package | 1.84.0-2.1 | noarch | (System Packages) i+ | brscan-skey | package | 0.3.2-0 | i386 | (System Packages) i+ | brscan4 | package | 0.4.11-1 | i386 | (System Packages) i+ | kernel-pae | package | 6.8.8-1.1 | i686 | (System Packages) i+ | kernel-pae | package | 6.7.7-1.1 | i686 | (System Packages) i+ | kernel-pae | package | 6.7.6-1.1 | i686 | (System Packages) i | libabsl2308_0_0 | package | 20230802.1-3.1 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libboost_filesystem1_84_0 | package | 1.84.0-2.1 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libboost_iostreams1_84_0 | package | 1.84.0-2.1 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libboost_locale1_84_0 | package | 1.84.0-2.1 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libboost_thread1_84_0 | package | 1.84.0-2.1 | i586 | (System Packages) i+ | libcamera-base0_1 | package | 0.1.0-1.2 | i586 | (System Packages) i+ | libcamera0_1 | package | 0.1.0-1.2 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libcbor0_10 | package | 0.10.2-1.4 | i586 | (System Packages) i+ | libdvdcss2 | package | 1.4.3+3-10.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libjxl0_9 | package | 0.9.2-1.2 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libkerfuffle23 | package | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKF5TextAddonsWidgets1 | package | 1.4.1-2.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKF5TextAutoCorrectionCore1 | package | 1.4.1-2.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKF5TextAutoCorrectionWidgets1 | package | 1.4.1-2.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKF5TextEditTextToSpeech1 | package | 1.4.1-2.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKF5TextEmoticonsCore1 | package | 1.4.1-2.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKF5TextEmoticonsWidgets1 | package | 1.4.1-2.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKF5TextGrammarCheck1 | package | 1.4.1-2.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKF5TextTranslator1 | package | 1.4.1-2.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libkgapi | package | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKPim5AkonadiAgentBase5 | package | 23.08.4-1.4 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKPim5AkonadiCore5 | package | 23.08.4-1.4 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKPim5AkonadiPrivate5 | package | 23.08.4-1.4 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKPim5AkonadiWidgets5 | package | 23.08.4-1.4 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKPim5AkonadiXml5 | package | 23.08.4-1.4 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKPim5GAPICalendar5 | package | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKPim5GAPICore5 | package | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKPim5GAPIPeople5 | package | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKPim5GAPITasks5 | package | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKPim5KontactInterface5 | package | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKPim5Libkdepim5 | package | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKPim5Mime5 | package | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKPim5PkPass5 | package | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libKPim5TextEdit5 | package | 23.08.4-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | liblastlog2-1 | package | 1.3.1-1.2 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libpoppler133 | package | 23.12.0-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libpoppler134 | package | 24.02.0-1.1 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libprotobuf-lite25_1_0 | package | 25.1-9.7 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libprotobuf-lite25_2_0 | package | 25.2-10.1 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libprotobuf25_1_0 | package | 25.1-9.7 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libprotobuf25_2_0 | package | 25.2-10.1 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libruby3_2-3_2 | package | 3.2.2-4.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libSPIRV-Tools-2023_6_rc1 | package | 2023.6~rc1-1.4 | i586 | (System Packages) i | libvpx8 | package | 1.13.1-1.4 | i586 | (System Packages) i+ | mfcj485dwcupswrapper | package | 1.0.0-0 | i386 | (System Packages) i+ | mfcj485dwlpr | package | 1.0.0-0 | i386 | (System Packages) i | ruby3.2 | package | 3.2.2-4.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | ruby3.2-rubygem-abstract_method | package | 1.2.1-2.8 | i586 | (System Packages) i | ruby3.2-rubygem-cfa | package | 1.0.2-1.8 | i586 | (System Packages) i | ruby3.2-rubygem-cfa_grub2 | package | 2.0.0-1.8 | i586 | (System Packages) i | ruby3.2-rubygem-cheetah | package | 1.0.0-1.8 | i586 | (System Packages) i | ruby3.2-rubygem-fast_gettext | package | 2.3.0-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | ruby3.2-rubygem-gem2rpm | package | 0.10.1-22.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | ruby3.2-rubygem-nokogiri | package | 1.15.5-1.8 | i586 | (System Packages) i | ruby3.2-rubygem-ruby-augeas | package | 0.5.0-3.8 | i586 | (System Packages) i | ruby3.2-rubygem-ruby-dbus | package | 0.23.1-2.3 | i586 | (System Packages) i | ruby3.2-rubygem-simpleidn | package | 0.2.1-1.8 | i586 | (System Packages) i | ruby3.2-rubygem-unf | package | 0.1.4-1.8 | i586 | (System Packages) i | ruby3.2-rubygem-unf_ext | package | 0.0.9.1-1.3 | i586 | (System Packages) paul@localhost:~> It seems as if nothing has changed after trying to ensure that "zypper dup" has completed fully. and probably all but the brothers
in the list above. I don't believe there's any justification to continue having libKF5* or libKPim5* packages installed any more unless you purposely locked them so that they could not be upgraded or removed. Boost*1_84_0* has been upgraded to 1_85_0*. Highly likely incomplete zypper dup is the root cause of https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1224061.
I honestly do not think this is the case here (imcomplete zypper dup). What is the best way to check the "zypper dup" for completed status then? Passing zypper ve -> Dependencies of all installed packages are satisfied. Passing zypper ll -> no package locks are defined.
pj@localhost:~>
If your Plasma still isn't running properly after than processing, try removing those old special settings you employed for v5. V6 is a major upgrade. Those old settings could be interfering with v6.
There is a trade off on this situation with this machine in doing so now. Enabling software rendering allows me to navigate SDDM but creates a much less usable system tray/taskbar. Disabling software rendering (reverting to hardware rendering) now, nearly disables SDDM's display capability to select a different window manager or whatever else. It is much more difficult due to every option label displaying blank fields. I have been working a bit with the Enlightenment desktop on this machine directly after the 32 bit KDE Plasma P6 MEGARELEASE issues.
What are your thoughts on this?
First get fully upgraded to latest i586 TW, then see how things are working.
Please tell me how to verify that the Tumbleweed snapshot on the machine is fully upgraded. Currently hostnamectl reports 20240515 .
I have an alternate theory that incomplete dup may not be the whole problem. That white box makes me think about the following: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/nouveau/-/issues/214 https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217479 https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1211761 What these would boil down to is regressions creeping into old hardware setups due to developers working so hard on Wayland and trying to forget X11 exists.
Thank you for sharing the reports above, some of what is discussed in there is a little confusing. To me, this appears to be a regression here also. Can you recommend anything like attempting nosimplefb=1 or the likes in /etc/default/grub perhaps? What are other suggestions you may have for me to look into on this? Should I continue using SDDM instead of GDM? It seems that using the KDE Plasma V6 MEGARELEASE on the machine in question may be out of the question for me🫥 and I will have to switch the Desktop Environment. I can use the hardware with X11 server and Enlightenment desktop with a learning curve it seems. Best Regards to you🫥