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for a few days there's a kernel update for 7.3 below /pub/suse/i386/update/7.3/kernel/2.4.16-20020325 on the ftp server.

Hi, I've been lurking on the list for a while... I have a question though... I have a single PIII and I'm using Ext3... so do I download the deflt one or the i386 one? And how do I go about doing this? Will the rpms install into /usr/src/linux, and then I just move the new kernel and the initrd, etc. into /boot and have Lilo point to them, or will it overwrite everything in place? Thanks... DoPo

Don't be a dick. That's how we turn people off to Linux. I don't care who you think you are or what you think this list is about..but being polite to someone isn't to much trouble. You could have pointed him as I did to the suse-linux-e list. * Ralf Ronneburger (ralf@ronneburger.de) [020405 12:06]: ::Hi Douglas, :: ::this is completely OT, RTFM (in this case: the suse-annoucements). :: ::Best regards, :: ::Ralf Ronneburger :: ::Douglas Pichardo wrote: :: ::>>>for a few days there's a kernel update for 7.3 below ::>>>/pub/suse/i386/update/7.3/kernel/2.4.16-20020325 on the ftp server. ::>>> ::> ::>Hi, I've been lurking on the list for a while... I have a ::>question though... I have a single PIII and I'm using Ext3... so do I ::>download the deflt one or the i386 one? And how do I go about doing this? ::>Will the rpms install into /usr/src/linux, and then I just move the new ::>kernel and the initrd, etc. into /boot and have Lilo point to them, or ::>will it overwrite everything in place? Thanks... ::> ::>DoPo ::> :: :: :: :: ::-- ::To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-security-unsubscribe@suse.com ::For additional commands, e-mail: suse-security-help@suse.com ::Security-related bug reports go to security@suse.de, not here :: -=Ben --=====-----=====-- mailto:ben@whack.org --=====-- "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around the more I think it might not be a bad thing." -JC --=====-----=====--

** On Fri, 05 Apr 2002 23:31:45 +0200 Ralf Ronneburger thought : **No, I don't think that's the case. I think we turn people off to Linux **if we give them the feeling, that they alway need the help of some **"experts" to solve theyr problems. That is fine for someone who has been on the list a while , and engaged in the give and take that sometimes happens here. You could have done both things tho. Good manners aren't reserved for those who look in the documentation first. Ben is right, it does turn people off , most especially when they are new to a list. I run a small Help center and the one thing I get most from people is they did send a question to a mailing list , in a format that lets the list users know what/where the problem is . Sometimes , people need to start small. ANd a random search on Google or in THE OS help doesn't always turn up the needed info. I've had many folks leave the help lists and give up on linux completely. It takes a while to get up to speed as Linux geek. Giving hte answer asn a suggestion where information can be found in future. Could override this feeling that they need to go to some school to get the learning enough to use any variation of Linux. we have to remember also, that many lurk on these lists for quite a while before posting. answereing as you did you might turn off several folks who leave and you aren't even aware they were there. linux can no longer afford such losses. WE are in a fight for survival, wherether you know it or not ! **some exotic package but about the kernel, wich is very well documented **in the SuSE-Manuals, online, in the annoucements etc.. I That assumes the writer has been on the list long enough to have received those announcements. Which BTW can scare the pants off some folks. Especially when the list gods decree that it's "Not a trivial " function to compile a kernal. ( and it isn't !), but someone "smart enough to have found this list" probably can do it, if they are lead through it once. YOu forget sometimes the writer of teh manual only speaks GEEK and that can be a real pita to sort out just what the stuff means. Usually when folks are helped w/ their questions AND told them how to find the information in future the next time they come up against impossible gibberish like RTFM or a paper that is written in Acronyms w/ none of them explained they will know it's not that they are stupid, they simply haven't learned Geekspeak yet. -- j afterthought : <----- the information went data way <---------------