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Since upgrading to 10.1 I have found applying security updates has become an extremely hit-and-miss process which takes much longer than it did under SuSE 9.3. I would be very grateful if someone could answer two questions: (1) What is the simplest way of applying security updates from the command-line? Something equivalent to online_update security (2) How do you configure it to use a local mirror instead of the far-off Austrian mirror that the Setup process likes to configure? I have looked at the rug man page and frankly don't understand it (the only bit I do understand turns out to be a lie: it says the only command you need is 'rug update'). I'm not interested in catalogues and services etc, I just want to install security updates. Regards, Bob Vickers ============================================================== Bob Vickers Dept of Computer Science, Royal Holloway, University of London
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 09:55:09AM +0100, Bob Vickers wrote:
Since upgrading to 10.1 I have found applying security updates has become an extremely hit-and-miss process which takes much longer than it did under SuSE 9.3. I would be very grateful if someone could answer two questions:
(1) What is the simplest way of applying security updates from the command-line? Something equivalent to online_update security
rug
(2) How do you configure it to use a local mirror instead of the far-off Austrian mirror that the Setup process likes to configure?
YAST Installation Source dialog. Change the remote source to your local mirror / directory.
I have looked at the rug man page and frankly don't understand it (the only bit I do understand turns out to be a lie: it says the only command you need is 'rug update'). I'm not interested in catalogues and services etc, I just want to install security updates.
If everything is set up rug update will do exactly that. CIao, Marcus
Bob Vickers wrote:
Since upgrading to 10.1 I have found applying security updates has become an extremely hit-and-miss process which takes much longer than it did under SuSE 9.3. I would be very grateful if someone could answer two questions:
(1) What is the simplest way of applying security updates from the command-line? Something equivalent to online_update security
(2) How do you configure it to use a local mirror instead of the far-off Austrian mirror that the Setup process likes to configure?
I have looked at the rug man page and frankly don't understand it (the only bit I do understand turns out to be a lie: it says the only command you need is 'rug update'). I'm not interested in catalogues and services etc, I just want to install security updates.
There is a beta version of fou4s for 10.1 at http://fou4s.gaugusch.at/ The entire zen/rug thing still has yet to even provide the functionality of the previous update system (no delta rpms, for instance) and takes far more resources. fou4s is a rather large shell script that manages updates via the command line and is designed to easily be put into a cron job to check and download updates, then install them at your command. (or even install them from cron, if you prefer) It's kinda sad when a shell script is a better system than zen/rug. Can you believe Novell actually charges people for the zen suite?
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 09:00:55AM -0400, suse@rio.vg wrote:
Bob Vickers wrote:
Since upgrading to 10.1 I have found applying security updates has become an extremely hit-and-miss process which takes much longer than it did under SuSE 9.3. I would be very grateful if someone could answer two questions:
(1) What is the simplest way of applying security updates from the command-line? Something equivalent to online_update security
(2) How do you configure it to use a local mirror instead of the far-off Austrian mirror that the Setup process likes to configure?
I have looked at the rug man page and frankly don't understand it (the only bit I do understand turns out to be a lie: it says the only command you need is 'rug update'). I'm not interested in catalogues and services etc, I just want to install security updates.
There is a beta version of fou4s for 10.1 at http://fou4s.gaugusch.at/
The entire zen/rug thing still has yet to even provide the functionality of the previous update system (no delta rpms, for instance) and takes far more resources.
fou4s is a rather large shell script that manages updates via the command line and is designed to easily be put into a cron job to check and download updates, then install them at your command. (or even install them from cron, if you prefer) It's kinda sad when a shell script is a better system than zen/rug. Can you believe Novell actually charges people for the zen suite?
The ZEN updater on the distro comes with the distro and is free. Ciao, Marcus
On 7/25/06, suse@rio.vg
There is a beta version of fou4s for 10.1 at http://fou4s.gaugusch.at/
The entire zen/rug thing still has yet to even provide the functionality of the previous update system (no delta rpms, for instance) and takes far more resources.
YaST also complained that it can't add the non-oss and similar SuSE installation sources to ZEN.
fou4s is a rather large shell script that manages updates via the command line and is designed to easily be put into a cron job to check and download updates, then install them at your command. (or even install them from cron, if you prefer) It's kinda sad when a shell script is a better system than zen/rug.
The YaST from a DVD failed to update for me at all (last week.) So, I got the fou4s beta, and had to run it about three times to get everything to update (on the first run it updated rpm. It also had to update yast and the kernel, it I recall correctly - so it was a fairly fundamental update.) However, after that everything was working correctly. -- David Corking
Folks: I have given up on YOU mirror selection in 10.1 and have begun mirroring ".../update/10.1" locally. 1) YOU no longer provides any control (that I can find) for user selection of the remote mirror in the setup or configuration menus. 2) After a fresh default install on both AMD64 and x86 systems, YOU fails and reports that no updates are available after configuring with a valid mirror site. 3) Update attempts with command line tools and with ZEN all fail with complaints about dependency errors. The errors cite dependency faults for "zmd-restart" that block all updates. Network and DNS operate correctly during the failures. After I add the local network address of my mirror to "Installation Sources" it takes 3 cycles with YOU to get a full set of patches applied. This is not what I expected from 10.1 and SuSE. Yours, Charles Brooks /ceb\
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 09:51:19PM -0400, SuSE eMail Collector wrote:
Folks:
I have given up on YOU mirror selection in 10.1 and have begun mirroring ".../update/10.1" locally.
1) YOU no longer provides any control (that I can find) for user selection of the remote mirror in the setup or configuration menus.
You can change it in the YAST Installation Source dialog.
2) After a fresh default install on both AMD64 and x86 systems, YOU fails and reports that no updates are available after configuring with a valid mirror site.
What sources did you add exactly?
3) Update attempts with command line tools and with ZEN all fail with complaints about dependency errors. The errors cite dependency faults for "zmd-restart" that block all updates.
This means that at the least the libzypp patch is visible to your update stack...
Network and DNS operate correctly during the failures.
After I add the local network address of my mirror to "Installation Sources" it takes 3 cycles with YOU to get a full set of patches applied.
This is correct and expected.
This is not what I expected from 10.1 and SuSE.
It will work better after this 3 cycle update stack update. Ciao, Marcus
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