Hi to all! I don't know if this subject belongs to this list, but here it goes..... I have a Pentium 4 2.4Ghz with 1G of RAM and instaled the SuSe 7.3 Professional distribution. The installed system is very unstable and once and a while it just reboots without a warning. I installed the stable kernel 2.4.20 and disabled APM in bios and in the kernel configuration. Now only ACPI works. The crashes remained. The behaviour remains the same if i boot in failsafe mode. Any ideas ? I also noticed (with top) that the memory used is growing in time. When the system boots there is 126M used and after 3 hours it has 800M used with the same processes. I also noticed that the biggest RSS process value is 11M. Any ideas ? Thanks P.S: sorry about my english. -- "Do or do not. There is no try" - Yoda João Reis -------------------------------------------------------
NO-NO-NO... a P4 with SuSE 7.3??!??! completely wrong!!! Install SuSE 8.1!!! even from ftp install!!! it's a much better choice!!! Radu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joao Reis" <joao.reis@2000comp.pt> To: <suse-security@suse.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 5:50 PM Subject: [suse-security] Suse 7.3 Crash
Hi to all!
I don't know if this subject belongs to this list, but here it goes.....
I have a Pentium 4 2.4Ghz with 1G of RAM and instaled the SuSe 7.3
Professional distribution.
The installed system is very unstable and once and a while it just reboots
without a warning.
I installed the stable kernel 2.4.20 and disabled APM in bios and in the
kernel configuration. Now only ACPI works.
The crashes remained.
The behaviour remains the same if i boot in failsafe mode.
Any ideas ?
I also noticed (with top) that the memory used is growing in time. When
800M used with the same processes. I also noticed that the biggest RSS
the system boots there is 126M used and after 3 hours it has process value is 11M.
Any ideas ?
Thanks
P.S: sorry about my english.
-- "Do or do not. There is no try" - Yoda
João Reis -------------------------------------------------------
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On Apr 9, Joao Reis <joao.reis@2000comp.pt> wrote:
I have a Pentium 4 2.4Ghz with 1G of RAM and instaled the SuSe 7.3 Professional distribution. I also noticed (with top) that the memory used is growing in time. When the system boots there is 126M used and after 3 hours it has 800M used with the same processes. This is probably just buffers/cache, which is not to be counted as "used" memory.
But I can't help you with your instability (maybe the other advice to switch to suse 8.1 helps). Markus -- __________________ /"\ Markus Gaugusch \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign markus@gaugusch.at X Against HTML Mail / \
Do you run squid or other proxy on the machine? Does it do bandwidth throttling? These use buffers that (if configured incorrectly) use lots of memory (especially squid). Ray On Wed, 2003-04-09 at 17:32, Markus Gaugusch wrote:
On Apr 9, Joao Reis <joao.reis@2000comp.pt> wrote:
I have a Pentium 4 2.4Ghz with 1G of RAM and instaled the SuSe 7.3 Professional distribution. I also noticed (with top) that the memory used is growing in time. When the system boots there is 126M used and after 3 hours it has 800M used with the same processes. This is probably just buffers/cache, which is not to be counted as "used" memory.
But I can't help you with your instability (maybe the other advice to switch to suse 8.1 helps).
Markus -- __________________ /"\ Markus Gaugusch \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign markus@gaugusch.at X Against HTML Mail / \
Hi Joao, Am Mittwoch, 9. April 2003 16:50 schrieb Joao Reis:
with 1G of RAM and instaled the SuSe 7.3 Professional
Same problem with my 7.3 System. I reduced the memory to 768 MByte and never got any problem since that time. Best wishes to you Heimo -- Heimo Ponnath Webdesign, Rotenhäuserstr. 51, 21109 Hamburg Tel: 040-753 47 95,Fax: 040-752 68 03, http://www.heimo.de/
Yes, I remember something in the installation guid about that ... On Wed, 2003-04-09 at 18:41, Heimo Ponnath wrote:
Hi Joao,
Am Mittwoch, 9. April 2003 16:50 schrieb Joao Reis:
with 1G of RAM and instaled the SuSe 7.3 Professional
Same problem with my 7.3 System. I reduced the memory to 768 MByte and never got any problem since that time.
Best wishes to you
Heimo -- Heimo Ponnath Webdesign, Rotenhäuserstr. 51, 21109 Hamburg Tel: 040-753 47 95,Fax: 040-752 68 03, http://www.heimo.de/ --
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Interesting info in this thread. Looks like I should consider upgrading my P4 notebook off of 7.3 sooner than later for maximum performance and stability (though I haven't really experienced any stability issues. knock on wood...) On Wed, 2003-04-09 at 11:47, Raymond Leach wrote:
Yes, I remember something in the installation guid about that ...
On Wed, 2003-04-09 at 18:41, Heimo Ponnath wrote:
Hi Joao,
Am Mittwoch, 9. April 2003 16:50 schrieb Joao Reis:
with 1G of RAM and instaled the SuSe 7.3 Professional
Same problem with my 7.3 System. I reduced the memory to 768 MByte and never got any problem since that time.
Best wishes to you
Heimo -- Heimo Ponnath Webdesign, Rotenhäuserstr. 51, 21109 Hamburg Tel: 040-753 47 95,Fax: 040-752 68 03, http://www.heimo.de/ --
( Raymond Leach ) ) Knowledge Factory ( ( ) ) Tel: +27 11 445 8100 ( ( Fax: +27 11 445 8101 ) ) ( ( http://www.knowledgefactory.co.za/ ) ) http://www.saptg.co.za/ ( ( http://www.mapnet.co.za/ )
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On Wed, 9 Apr 2003 15:50:43 +0100 Joao Reis <joao.reis@2000comp.pt> wrote:
Hi to all!
I don't know if this subject belongs to this list, but here it goes.....
I have a Pentium 4 2.4Ghz with 1G of RAM and instaled the SuSe 7.3 Professional distribution.
The installed system is very unstable and once and a while it just reboots without a warning.
I installed the stable kernel 2.4.20 and disabled APM in bios and in the kernel configuration. Now only ACPI works.
The crashes remained.
The behaviour remains the same if i boot in failsafe mode.
Any ideas ?
I also noticed (with top) that the memory used is growing in time. When the system boots there is 126M used and after 3 hours it has 800M used with the same processes. I also noticed that the biggest RSS process value is 11M.
Any ideas ?
Thanks
Hello As some of the ppl wrote before me it is adviceable to install a more recent version of SuSE on such a new hardware. Also the growing memory is normal, the buffered and cached part of the memory use is growing in the time as you are using the system, it is a normal linux behaviour to use the whole physical memory at its disposal. But it does not affect the performance of your computer the same way as M$ Windoze does. It is also adviceable to give an important amount of swap space, I regulary use 1,5 Gig on three different swap partitions (512 MB each) - of course on three different HDDs. On the other hand the instability may be due to a hardware issue such as a faulty RAM module or not appropriate FSB setting. It is not recommended by SuSE but it may be useful to compile your own kernel, the 2.4.21pre6 is the latest, and try to see the system's behaviour with the new one. But basicaly I have to agree with those who adviced to use 8.1 instead of the 7.3. Try to download the ftp tree onto your HDD and create the bootdisk kit (5 FDDs) or write the boot.iso to CD and boot from it. Choose the install from local drive and follow the necessary steps. But of course the price of the 8.2 to come will not be -I hope- a problem when considering a possible solution. It's worth to wait for it.. :) VV
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Greg Macek
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