-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi list, FYI: http://www.daemonology.net/hyperthreading-considered-harmful/ any comments from SuSE about that? Regards, Sven -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCsAD+QoCguWUBzBwRAhy0AJ9QvCKnbDttxY4v6uYOotu0oQdgbACfRwLf bmrkznCjk71buD6/NKtt1SM= =v1IB -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 12:20:47PM +0200, Sven 'Darkman' Michels wrote:
Hi list,
FYI: http://www.daemonology.net/hyperthreading-considered-harmful/
any comments from SuSE about that?
We do not consider it as that critical right now. We will of course integrate the already worked on openssl patches to avoid exposing this particular problem. Ciao, Marcus
On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 12:20:47PM +0200, Sven 'Darkman' Michels wrote:
FYI: http://www.daemonology.net/hyperthreading-considered-harmful/
According to http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2005/05/20/researcher_attack_could_expose_..., it's not hyperthreading-specific. If you follow the link on that page to http://cr.yp.to/antiforgery/cachetiming-20050414.pdf you can see how to recover all 128 bits of a randomly-generated AES key in around a day on P3 without multithreading. -Kastus
On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 10:05:09AM -0700, Kastus wrote:
On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 12:20:47PM +0200, Sven 'Darkman' Michels wrote:
FYI: http://www.daemonology.net/hyperthreading-considered-harmful/
According to http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2005/05/20/researcher_attack_could_expose_..., it's not hyperthreading-specific. If you follow the link on that page to http://cr.yp.to/antiforgery/cachetiming-20050414.pdf you can see how to recover all 128 bits of a randomly-generated AES key in around a day on P3 without multithreading.
Yes, but this is another issue. It is based on the AES implementation that uses secrets for calculating indices to an array (s-box cache). (But DJB also points out other (hardware, CPU) sources that can lead to timing-attacks) AFAIK the OpenSSL developers prepare patches for this too to create a constant-time AES (maybe others?) implementation. BTW, ever tried the code attached to Bernstein's paper? Does it work?
-Kastus
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