Sorry, but I'm a heretic. I **LIKE** to log in as root. If I muck it up, great! I'll just have to rebuild it again, and **THAT'S** how I learn all about it. Casey Bralla Chief Nerd In Residence The NerdWorld Organisation http://www.NerdWorld.org LinuxList@NerdWorld.org
On Tue, Aug 10, 1999 at 06:13:37PM -0700, Casey Bralla wrote:
Sorry, but I'm a heretic. I **LIKE** to log in as root. If I muck it up, great! I'll just have to rebuild it again, and **THAT'S** how I learn all about it.
You can get away with a _lot_ more on your personal computer. I don't have sudo installed and I log in as root to do certain things, but I would never ever do this on a production server. I most certainly would never do what you suggested on a production server/workstation etc. I hope to god you wouldn't either... (sorry, cleaning up after a huge mistake and causing lots of downtime doesn't make for happy managers, customers, anyone, you, trust me, the crap you get when the system goes down isn't worth over use of root). And that's all I am going to say... (I'm an experienced sysadmin, too tempting to give you an earful). -- Jeff -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCS/M/>P d-(pu) s+:- a17>? C++(++++) L+++ UL++(+++)@>++++$ P+ E W++@ N+ o? K- w--- O? M V- PS+ PE(--)@ Y++@ PGP t+ 5 X++@ R++@ !tv@ b++ DI++++ D- G e- h! r++ y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
On Tue, Aug 10, 1999 at 06:13:37PM -0700, Casey Bralla wrote:
Sorry, but I'm a heretic. I **LIKE** to log in as root. If I muck it up, great! I'll just have to rebuild it again, and **THAT'S** how I learn all about it.
Well, Casey, you are right -- putzing things up is a great way to learn. Just think back to the first time you rebuilt your kernel and forgot to update lilo before rebooting. And of course, boot floppy? why bother with those... :) It is a *wonderful* way to learn. But a miserable security measure. :) So, to new sysadmins, you would do well to login as root when you *need* to, when working on production systems. (Which many of us *do* sysadmin..) To new sysadmins, feel free to play around as root -- on your home machines, where it doesn't really matter. Heh heh. :) -- Seth Arnold | ICQ 3172483 | http://cswww.willamette.edu/~sarnold/ I prosecute unsolicited bulk emails, using the RealTime BlackHole List. You should too. Ask me how, or visit http://maps.vix.com/rbl/
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