Here in the states we are not leagally able to build http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/pki/nss/buildnss.html without paying royalites to RSA. I can't seem to get RSA to take my money. In other words they don't return my calls and they don't respond to my emails. Come next month their pattem runs out and the opensource community can start distributin BSAFE emulations in the states. I'm wondering what you folks on the other side of the big pond do vis-a-vis RSA BSAFE when you want to build something like NSS. Has anybody done this? Prehaps with BSAFEeay? Steve