RE: [suse-security] Memo on Windows
Take a look at: http://kirch.net/unix-nt/ Noah.
-----Original Message----- From: A.L Paul [mailto:alikanza@amrefug.org] Sent: 10 May 2004 09:31 To: 'suse-security@suse.com' Subject: [suse-security] Memo on Windows
Hi all,I need to reassure someone just how unrealiable a windows platform can be especially if its used as a server of any sort and is a proxy to the internet.Also,and more importantly,I need facts and figures on the linux equivalent so that I can put things into proper perspective for them to wake up to reality. thanks Paul.
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It's a pity this article is so hopelessly outdated as to be laughed out of any serious discussion. If you're going to try to convince someone that Unix is better than NT, fine. But if you're going to try and compete with WinXP, you'd be better off finding an article written with that in mind. Also, don't assume that Windows servers are always more secure than Linux ones. One _can_ secure a Windows server, if it's really worth the effort, and equally, one can run a Linux server in a sloppy and insecure manner. It depends who's running it really. Look around and see how many people are complaining they've been broken into due to running some dodgy PHP library... how elite ;-) (Yes, I know how many people run Windows badly, and how this has been the default for too too long, you needn't tell me about *that*!) Enough wingeing, apologies. I'm all in favour of trying to get people to run Linux, because I really believe it can be the best answer (in many cases), but let's find some good arguments. My first step would be to find some people who stand to make some money out of this, such as SuSe, RedHat etc. For starters, their sites might be written in a more "corporate friendly" manner! SuSE Security: * http://www.suse.com/de/security/general/index.html If the client's _serious_ about security: * http://www.suse.com/en/company/press/press_releases/archive04/eal3.html * http://www.redhat.com/about/presscenter/2004/press_security.html Some links on the RedHat site: http://www.redhat.com/solutions/business/security/ (Sadly you need to register to read the whitepapers...) Hope this helps, Tom.
-----Original Message----- From: sematin@mtn.co.ug [mailto:sematin@mtn.co.ug] Sent: 10 May 2004 07:44 To: alikanza@amrefug.org; suse-security@suse.com Subject: RE: [suse-security] Memo on Windows
Take a look at:
Noah.
-----Original Message----- From: A.L Paul [mailto:alikanza@amrefug.org] Sent: 10 May 2004 09:31 To: 'suse-security@suse.com' Subject: [suse-security] Memo on Windows
Hi all,I need to reassure someone just how unrealiable a windows platform can be especially if its used as a server of any sort and is a proxy to the internet.Also,and more importantly,I need facts and figures on the linux equivalent so that I can put things into proper perspective for them to wake up to reality. thanks Paul.
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Tom Knight wrote:
It's a pity this article is so hopelessly outdated as to be laughed out of any serious discussion. If you're going to try to convince someone that Unix is better than NT, fine. But if you're going to try and compete with WinXP, you'd be better off finding an article written with that in mind.
Yes it is out of date. However, in it is a link to a very nice page that is not. Check out http://www.linux-tutorial.info/Linux-NT_Debate/ by Jim Mohr. His article is fairly long, but then the topic is not short. :-) And don't let the title fool you, he does discuss XP. I emailed him sometime back with a few pointers to add to his article, and we had a very nice conversation about the topic. You definitely need to check it out. Note, the article is not perfect, it's showing its age in a few places, but Jim does keep adding to it, or at least the "last updated" value keeps changing. :-) HTH, Kevin
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