Personally I'm not the least bit suprised to see German on security list that is for a German distribution. (After all the SuSE 6.2 manual wasn't completely translated :-) I looked at it in babelfish to see whether there was anything I would respond to it with, but there wasn't. The babelfish translation is: -- Start translation I wanted to refer only to a ' false design ' of the MySQL bug. Since the ACL von MySQL contains also the host, from which a user comes, must one either an account find, which is de-energised for the whole world, or access to one in the ACL of listed host to have. Speak: On our own server could only local user the service abuse, since it does not occur a user with remote host into the ACL. And only trustworthy people have local access. The bug is thus - appropriate adjustments in accordance with general system security presupposed - engraving, but only half so bad, as it may seem at first sight. The appropriate recommendation should be IMHO thus - presupposed one trusts the Anwedern, which have shell access to the server - all accounts to switch off, the access of non trustet remote of host to permit. ps I am connected with TcX in no way, except that I am an active user of MySQL and do not speak in this case also in the name that FR IN GbmH. -- End translation In case Rolf Haberrecker doesn't speak english (after all I don't speak German) if someone more knowledgeable than I replies to his query with something useful, I'll pass them through babelfish back again. Michael. -- National & Local Web Cache Support R: G117 Manchester Computing T: 0161 275 7195 University of Manchester F: 0161 275 6040 Manchester UK M13 9PL M: Michael.Sparks@wwwcache.ja.net On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Michael Lupp wrote:

Hmmmm... Which language is this? I thought, it should be English. Some guys never seem to learn.

Michael

-----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: Rolf Haberrecker [mailto:rolf@suse.de] Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. Februar 2000 10:33 An: suse-security@suse.de Betreff: [suse-security] [philemon@spin.de: Bitte weiterleiten (was: fwd: (MAILER-DAEMON@suse.com) failure notice)]

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Hi.

Ich wollte nur auf eine 'Fehlauslegung' des MySQL-Bugs hinweisen. Da die ACL von MySQL auch den Host beinhalten, von dem aus ein User kommt, muss man entweder einen Account finden, der fuer die ganze Welt freigeschaltet ist, oder Zugriff auf einen der in der ACL gelisteten Hosts haben.

Sprich: Auf unserem eigenen Server koennten nur lokale User den Service missbrauchen, da er kein User mit einem remote host in den ACL vorkommt. Und lokalen Zugriff haben nur vertrauenswuerdige Leute.

Der Bug ist also - entsprechende Einstellungen gemaess allgemeiner Systemsicherheit vorausgesetzt - zwar gravierend, aber nur halb so schlimm, wie es auf den ersten Blick scheinen mag.

Die entsprechende Empfehlung sollte IMHO also sein - vorausgesetzt man traut den Anwedern, die Shell-Zugriff auf den Server haben - alle Accounts abzuschalten, die Zugriff von non-trustet remote hosts erlauben.

Tschuess,

Benjamin.

PS: Ich bin mit TcX in keiner Weise verbunden, ausser dass ich ein reger Nutzer von MySQL bin und spreche in diesem Fall auch nicht im Namen der SPiN GbmH.

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Hi, On Tue, Feb 22, Michael Lupp wrote:

Hmmmm... Which language is this?

This is german language.

I thought, it should be English.

Yes, it should.

Some guys never seem to learn.

Some human beings are not perfect. They tend to make a mistake now and then.

Michael

[excessive quoting deleted; some guys never seem to learn] Thanks, -o) Hubert Mantel Goodbye, dots... /\\ _\_v

So Leute, um die Sache mit der deutschen Mail ein fur alle Mal abzuhaken: Wer lesen kann, ist immer noch klar im Vorteil! Auf der Suse-Homepage steht, da? diese Mailinglist in englisch ist. Ich gehe mal davon aus, dass sich jeder auf diese Art zur Liste angemeldet hat. Also hat auch jeder die Bedingungen gelesesn. Ich kann also nicht ganz nachvollziehen, was es hier zu mosern gibt. English:(Babelfish) So people, in order to check off the thing with the German Mail for all mark: Who can read, is still clear in the advantage! On the Suse homepage it is that this Mailinglist is in English. I assume times everyone announced itself in this type to the list. Thus also everyone has the conditions gelesesn. I can reconstruct thus not completely, what gives it here too mosern. Michael