Does anyone else get these? (ezmlm warning)
Guys, I was just wondering if anyone else gets these messages occasionally?? Now, this email address/domain is hosted at hispeed.com who are a pretty large hosting company. When I first got one of these messages, I raised a help desk ticket with them, but they could find anything wrong. Likewise the second time. This is now the 4th time I have received this message in as many months from the SuSE mailing list. Does anyone have any clue what is going on? I receive over a hundred messages a day to different accounts on this server (BugTraq, NTBugtraq, FW-1, HWG, 2600, Linux-aus, etc etc..) and the only one that seems to have any problems is SuSE.... I would really like to get to the bottom of this... -Nix
Mailing-List: contact suse-security-help@suse.com; run by ezmlm Date: 15 Dec 2000 17:36:33 -0000 From: suse-security-help@ns2.SuSE.com To: suse@nix.hispeed.com Subject: ezmlm warning
Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the suse-security@suse.com mailing list.
Messages to you from the suse-security mailing list seem to have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce message I received.
If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe bounces, I will remove your address from the suse-security mailing list, without further notice.
I've kept a list of which messages from the suse-security mailing list have bounced from your address.
Copies of these messages may be in the archive. To retrieve a set of messages 123-145 (a maximum of 100 per request), send an empty message to:
To receive a subject and author list for the last 100 or so messages, send an empty message to:
Here are the message numbers:
4286 4287 4284 4285
--- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received.
Return-Path: <> Received: (qmail 32510 invoked for bounce); 3 Dec 2000 22:34:51 -0000 Date: 3 Dec 2000 22:34:51 -0000 From: MAILER-DAEMON@lists.suse.com To: suse-security-return-4286-@lists.suse.com Subject: failure notice
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at lists.suse.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
: 209.145.61.245 does not like recipient. Remote host said: 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown Giving up on 209.145.61.245.
-- Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking
On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Nix wrote:
Guys,
I was just wondering if anyone else gets these messages occasionally?? Now, this email address/domain is hosted at hispeed.com who are a pretty large hosting company. When I first got one of these messages, I raised a help desk ticket with them, but they could find anything wrong. Likewise the second time. This is now the 4th time I have received this message in as many months from the SuSE mailing list. Does anyone have any clue what is going on?
Looks simple enough. Whenever you send a message to suse-security, you get bounces, because of e-mail addresses that no longer exist or mailboxes that are full. The bounce notifications are sent by the mailer-daemon (look at the second message you included, it was sent by mailer-daemon@lists.suse.com). However, some mailservers are configured to reject messages from "mailer-daemon" because these are usually error messages or away notifications. Not smart policy in my book, but still. So the bounce notifications that are sent to you may be bounced themselves (oh irony ;-)). You can check this with your ISP, or just try for yourself to send a message as "mailer-daemon" from somewhere. The last check message was from suse-security-help, so that is let through. Hope this helps, Stefan
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On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 01:02:01 +1100, Nix
Guys,
I was just wondering if anyone else gets these messages occasionally??
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Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the suse-security@suse.com mailing list.
Messages to you from the suse-security mailing list seem to have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce message I received.
I get one of these every few weeks. The error message usually indicates that it couldn't resolve my domain name. I suspect that the mailing list program occasionally times out while waiting for a name to be resolved, and treats "no response from name server" the same as "name server couldn't find the name", since other mail is reaching me without problems. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.1 Int. for non-commercial use http://www.pgpinternational.com iQA/AwUBOj006DMYPge5L34aEQJFXACgr+3dIeA6at70QT9x8AJ+q23eYAUAn1Ww zRBd75QKZXZFkSS3uLoo828E =i7Do -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- John F. Eldredge -- eldredge@poboxes.com PGP key available from: http://www.netforward.com/poboxes/?eldredge/ "There must be, not a balance of power, but a community of power; not organized rivalries, but an organized common peace." - Woodrow Wilson
On 18 Dec 2000, at 1:02, Nix wrote:
Does anyone have any clue what is going on?
Hi, I got such messages in february 2000 too. They include such:
Here are the message numbers:
1135
--- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received.
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here follows a list of hosts the message passed, in my case it included a hint to a misconfigured mail server. My ISP did not find anything too, so I set up a qmail account on a server I had control over and was allowed to. My ISP (still) is Chello (now UPC something) in austria. mike
I also get those once in a while but then I attributed it to maybe a few samll dns erros like not being able to resolv my domain name and the like. At first I thought I had this alone looks like it is common could it be something that could be fixed by tinkering with the mailing list software a bit or the qmail program? On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Nix wrote:
Guys,
I was just wondering if anyone else gets these messages occasionally?? Now, this email address/domain is hosted at hispeed.com who are a pretty large hosting company. When I first got one of these messages, I raised a help desk ticket with them, but they could find anything wrong. Likewise the second time. This is now the 4th time I have received this message in as many months from the SuSE mailing list. Does anyone have any clue what is going on? I receive over a hundred messages a day to different accounts on this server (BugTraq, NTBugtraq, FW-1, HWG, 2600, Linux-aus, etc etc..) and the only one that seems to have any problems is SuSE....
I would really like to get to the bottom of this...
-Nix
Mailing-List: contact suse-security-help@suse.com; run by ezmlm Date: 15 Dec 2000 17:36:33 -0000 From: suse-security-help@ns2.SuSE.com To: suse@nix.hispeed.com Subject: ezmlm warning
Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the suse-security@suse.com mailing list.
Messages to you from the suse-security mailing list seem to have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce message I received.
If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe bounces, I will remove your address from the suse-security mailing list, without further notice.
I've kept a list of which messages from the suse-security mailing list have bounced from your address.
Copies of these messages may be in the archive. To retrieve a set of messages 123-145 (a maximum of 100 per request), send an empty message to:
To receive a subject and author list for the last 100 or so messages, send an empty message to:
Here are the message numbers:
4286 4287 4284 4285
--- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received.
Return-Path: <> Received: (qmail 32510 invoked for bounce); 3 Dec 2000 22:34:51 -0000 Date: 3 Dec 2000 22:34:51 -0000 From: MAILER-DAEMON@lists.suse.com To: suse-security-return-4286-@lists.suse.com Subject: failure notice
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at lists.suse.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
: 209.145.61.245 does not like recipient. Remote host said: 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown Giving up on 209.145.61.245. -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking
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John F. Eldredge
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Nix
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semat
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Stefan Suurmeijer
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Thomas Michael Wanka