YOU does not install Kernel Update
Hi, I'm using Suse 8.2 with Kernel k_athlon-2.4.20-86. There should be an update to k_athlon-2.4.20-100 which YOU doesn't show. YOU only installed the kernel-source update (without first showing it (maybe because You thinks this packet have been updated in the past) until you click on "include installed patches" (dt: installierte Patches einschließen). What should I do to install the Kernel? Should I click on "include installed patches" then manually select "kernel optimized for Athlon CPUs" and then select update? Is this really the way to do it? Matthias -- The site www.sco.com is running Apache/1.3.14 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.7.1 OpenSSL/0.9.6 PHP/4.0.3pl1 on Linux. (http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.sco.com)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Matthias, before downloading and installing the new kernel think if you really need to upgrade within a patchlevel. If you need/want urgently update, you can download the wanted kernel on ftp.suse.com (...). Find out your current working kernel version with 'uname -r'. Choose now the rpm packet with the corresponding newest kernel. As i recall you should use for installation rpm -Uvh --force --nodeps kernel<version>.rpm. There is also an article on the SuSE support pages covering this topic. Doublecheck if SuSE has some new specific informations there. Best regards Hil -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> iQA/AwUBPzsz008mfsCBsFzEEQIfhgCgxnD14/uNnbpS69Nr8bkmesu4V+YAn2f/ 5Ri3V5fW5OsA2WTO1K/h8ejq =gmeX -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Am Donnerstag, 14. August 2003 09:01 schrieb Hilbert Steinbach:
before downloading and installing the new kernel think if you really need to upgrade within a patchlevel.
The upgrade YOU should propose would be within a patchlevel.
If you need/want urgently update, you can download the wanted kernel on ftp.suse.com (...).
Of course that's possible. But YOU is really broken if it sometimes doesn't upgrade critical packages containing security holes. Matthias -- The site www.sco.com is running Apache/1.3.14 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.7.1 OpenSSL/0.9.6 PHP/4.0.3pl1 on Linux. (http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.sco.com)
Matthias, You are quite right, YOU ought to be able to install critical patches. The most likely explanation is that YOU was accessing a mirror site that was not quite up-to-date. Does it still happen? People are generally rude about YOU because the early versions were very poor. It has improved greatly since then, but has not lost its reputation. Bob On Fri, 15 Aug 2003, Matthias Wieser wrote:
============================================================== Bob Vickers R.Vickers@cs.rhul.ac.uk Dept of Computer Science, Royal Holloway, University of London WWW: http://www.cs.rhul.ac.uk/home/bobv Phone: +44 1784 443691
Am Freitag, 15. August 2003 16:13 schrieb Bob Vickers:
You *is* up to date. I wrote that You in fact was up to date because it showed the kernel-update if you "click on 'include installed patches' (dt: installierte Patches einschließen)". So You knows about the Kernel Update but doesn't show it until you click on "'include installed patches". If you now scroll down you find an entry similar to "kernel optimized for Athlon CPUs". If you then click on it, you see that there is a newer Version ( -100) available.
Maybe it is not improved enough? You did always work for me (even the first update-kernel got installed). Only that particular patch made problems. What I think is: You knows that I have got installed the first Kernel-update and because of that doesn't show the package k_athlon anymore. Some days ago a new k_athlon package has been released (2.4.20-100). But You doesn't show it because it thinks, k_athlon has been installed... So you have to find it manually and select update. Matthias
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 15. August 2003 17:49 schrieb Matthias Wieser:
Yes, I think that's the reason. My productive system didn't show the new kernel without enabling 'include installed patches'. But I installed 8.2 to a new machine yesterday and YOU happily installed the latest patch level (100) for the kernel and kernel-source. Ciao, Oliver - -- http://www.Schwabedissen-Online.de -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/PQb32xKg64Yci0URAv+BAKCyELOX1nazXpDlIsk+A5bfXeITMwCfS383 MZ9BS5yDPBsf/goIslG2FYM= =nBMV -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 05:49:14PM +0200, Matthias Wieser wrote:
It's true that YOU knows about the update. On the two systems I have running 8.2, YOU lists all kernel updates except for the kernel installed (k_athlon and k_smp respectivly). I'd probably have found them, had I done as you did...
Not true in my case. On both machines, YOU downloads the new patch *if* (when) you proceed... So the conclusions are; YOU knows about the patch, downloads it and ask if you want to install, _but_ it does not show the patch in the list of available patches... -- Anders Zachison Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. -- Albert Einstein
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Matthias, before downloading and installing the new kernel think if you really need to upgrade within a patchlevel. If you need/want urgently update, you can download the wanted kernel on ftp.suse.com (...). Find out your current working kernel version with 'uname -r'. Choose now the rpm packet with the corresponding newest kernel. As i recall you should use for installation rpm -Uvh --force --nodeps kernel<version>.rpm. There is also an article on the SuSE support pages covering this topic. Doublecheck if SuSE has some new specific informations there. Best regards Hil -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> iQA/AwUBPzsz008mfsCBsFzEEQIfhgCgxnD14/uNnbpS69Nr8bkmesu4V+YAn2f/ 5Ri3V5fW5OsA2WTO1K/h8ejq =gmeX -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Am Donnerstag, 14. August 2003 09:01 schrieb Hilbert Steinbach:
before downloading and installing the new kernel think if you really need to upgrade within a patchlevel.
The upgrade YOU should propose would be within a patchlevel.
If you need/want urgently update, you can download the wanted kernel on ftp.suse.com (...).
Of course that's possible. But YOU is really broken if it sometimes doesn't upgrade critical packages containing security holes. Matthias -- The site www.sco.com is running Apache/1.3.14 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.7.1 OpenSSL/0.9.6 PHP/4.0.3pl1 on Linux. (http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.sco.com)
Matthias, You are quite right, YOU ought to be able to install critical patches. The most likely explanation is that YOU was accessing a mirror site that was not quite up-to-date. Does it still happen? People are generally rude about YOU because the early versions were very poor. It has improved greatly since then, but has not lost its reputation. Bob On Fri, 15 Aug 2003, Matthias Wieser wrote:
============================================================== Bob Vickers R.Vickers@cs.rhul.ac.uk Dept of Computer Science, Royal Holloway, University of London WWW: http://www.cs.rhul.ac.uk/home/bobv Phone: +44 1784 443691
Am Freitag, 15. August 2003 16:13 schrieb Bob Vickers:
You *is* up to date. I wrote that You in fact was up to date because it showed the kernel-update if you "click on 'include installed patches' (dt: installierte Patches einschließen)". So You knows about the Kernel Update but doesn't show it until you click on "'include installed patches". If you now scroll down you find an entry similar to "kernel optimized for Athlon CPUs". If you then click on it, you see that there is a newer Version ( -100) available.
Maybe it is not improved enough? You did always work for me (even the first update-kernel got installed). Only that particular patch made problems. What I think is: You knows that I have got installed the first Kernel-update and because of that doesn't show the package k_athlon anymore. Some days ago a new k_athlon package has been released (2.4.20-100). But You doesn't show it because it thinks, k_athlon has been installed... So you have to find it manually and select update. Matthias
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 15. August 2003 17:49 schrieb Matthias Wieser:
Yes, I think that's the reason. My productive system didn't show the new kernel without enabling 'include installed patches'. But I installed 8.2 to a new machine yesterday and YOU happily installed the latest patch level (100) for the kernel and kernel-source. Ciao, Oliver - -- http://www.Schwabedissen-Online.de -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/PQb32xKg64Yci0URAv+BAKCyELOX1nazXpDlIsk+A5bfXeITMwCfS383 MZ9BS5yDPBsf/goIslG2FYM= =nBMV -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 05:49:14PM +0200, Matthias Wieser wrote:
It's true that YOU knows about the update. On the two systems I have running 8.2, YOU lists all kernel updates except for the kernel installed (k_athlon and k_smp respectivly). I'd probably have found them, had I done as you did...
Not true in my case. On both machines, YOU downloads the new patch *if* (when) you proceed... So the conclusions are; YOU knows about the patch, downloads it and ask if you want to install, _but_ it does not show the patch in the list of available patches... -- Anders Zachison Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. -- Albert Einstein
participants (5)
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Anders Zachrison -
Bob Vickers -
Hilbert.Steinbach＠t-online.de -
matthias-wieser＠t-online.de -
Oliver Schwabedissen