Yast2bignfat... says it all doesn't it ?

Hi, I just tried -unsuccesfully- to update a 7.2 box with online-update when it started barfing, and eventually crashing on me. Upon retry I let a 'top' run alongside and it seems that yast2 / you is / was the culprit. I think the 'top' screendump below speaks for itself. Another minute and yast2 will have consumed all mem+swap. It's just luck the kernel didn't panic but killed yast2 instead. I understand that having 128 MB in a machine is not state-of-the-art nowadays, but come on, it's a firewall running named+sshd, nothing more. Do I have a corrupted install, or is this A) normal and B) unavoidable ? I realise this is somewhat out of place at suse-security, but since it directly concerns the online update facility, I posted here nonetheless. The updates concerned were apache, bzip(?) glibc and openssl. However, yast2 crashed before it could start updating glibc.* Oh, P.S.: I'd like to express my concern at the disappearance of Yast1 with Suse version 8. Yast2 is all very gooey and nice and stuff, but I can easily break my [TAB] key on my keyboard just trying to do anything with yast2 over a remote link. For instance, searching, selecting and installing 1 simple package with yast2 from the DVD takes at least 10-20 tab- events. Changing some things in the runlevel editor is so bad I cannot even start counting the seemingly endless tab-tab-tab-tab-space-tab-space-tab-space-tab-tab-tab-tab-tab- tab-tab-cursordown-tab-tab-tab-tab-space-tab-space-tab events... But yeah, this IS misplaced at this mailinglist... true... excuse me. Comments ? Greetings, Maarten 44 processes: 43 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped CPU states: 0.6% user, 2.5% system, 0.0% nice, 96.7% idle Mem: 125224K av, 122276K used, 2948K free, 0K shrd, 2980K buff Swap: 136544K av, 135996K used, 548K free 18696K cached PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 9137 root 9 0 211M 84M 3572 S 0.0 69.1 2:42 y2bignfat 9138 root 9 0 211M 84M 3572 S 0.0 69.1 0:00 y2bignfat 9139 root 9 0 211M 84M 3572 S 0.0 69.1 0:03 y2bignfat 10693 root 17 0 5684 5684 516 D 1.1 4.5 0:00 rpm 9124 root 9 0 2420 1364 792 S 0.0 1.0 0:00 named 9125 root 9 0 2420 1364 792 S 0.0 1.0 0:00 named 9126 root 9 0 2420 1364 792 S 0.0 1.0 0:00 named 9127 root 9 0 2420 1364 792 S 0.0 1.0 0:00 named 9128 root 9 0 2420 1364 792 S 0.0 1.0 0:00 named 8858 maarten 12 0 552 504 492 R 1.0 0.4 0:14 top 8844 maarten 9 0 552 304 244 S 0.0 0.2 0:01 sshd 3581 maarten 9 0 552 292 224 S 0.0 0.2 0:01 sshd 835 root 9 0 248 204 180 S 0.0 0.1 0:14 syslogd 2893 root 9 0 212 164 132 S 0.0 0.1 0:00 cron -- This email has been scanned for the presence of computer viruses. Maarten J. H. van den Berg ~~//~~ network administrator VBVB - Amsterdam - The Netherlands - http://vbvb.nl T +31204233288 F +31204233286 G +31651994273

* Maarten J H van den Berg (maarten@vbvb.nl) [020731 11:57]:
Comments ?
This has already been commented on here and I think the general consensus is that, yes, yast2 is obese and YOU may not be for everyone. Markus Gaugusch has written a nice replacement for YOU--please see Q14 of the faq. -- -ckm

Maarten J H van den Berg wrote:
Hi,
I just tried -unsuccesfully- to update a 7.2 box with online-update when
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Comments ?
Yeah, do what we've done. Dump SuSE and go with Gentoo. We're retiring SuSE boxes as fast as we can. Once you've got your head around Gentoo (and SuSE 8.0 forced us to for all the reasons you've mentioned), you'll never go near a conventional distro again. Cheers, Laurie. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Laurie Brown laurie@brownowl.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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