Here's something that may be of interest to all you security buffs out there.... (and for an added bonus prize, it's written by Kurt, one of the spamme^H^H^H^H contributors to the list *grin*) http://slashdot.org/articles/00/12/18/0759236.shtml http://www.securityportal.com/cover/coverstory20001218.html "SecurityPortal has a very interesting article by Kurt Seifried in which he writes "dsniff 2.3 allows you to exploit several fundamental flaws in two extremely popular encryption protocols, SSL and SSH." He makes many very strong arguments about key validity and the problem with not having a trusted third party signing keys." Don't throw away SSH just yet, it's still a lot better than nothing. Nice one Kurt... Cheers -Nix -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking