The thing I don't get. The majority of people on this list have installed free software (I would love to see the amount of SuSE systems out there as a percentage of the amount SOLD by SuSE). While this is in the Open Source community no excuse for bad quality control, the overall service received from SuSE in unofficial support over the past 5 years has been nothing short of brilliant. A mistake has happened, been recognised, and guaranteed will be analysed to try and prevent the same mistake from happening again. Most kids fall off their bucycle at some point. They learn at that point that turning in the sand at high speed is a bad idea and don't do it again (unless the truck they are trying to avoid takes their eyes off the road for a moment). So all in all, SuSE keep it up, everyone else, shut up, I am getting to see this thread as SPAM in my security mailbox and am sure that while I am only adding to the problem now, hopefully you will all grow up and spend more time fixing your problems than whining because someone else isn't. -- Q: How many lawyers does it take to change a light bulb? A: You won't find a lawyer who can change a light bulb. Now, if you're looking for a lawyer to screw a light bulb...