I could be mistaken about this part, but I believe "mantel" is SuSE's main kernel developer. I say this because the updates reside in what seems to be somebody's home directory. From what I understand these kernels are development pre-release for the next SuSE release. I don't think they are meant for the general community, but again I could be wrong. In certain cases, SuSE support might tell you to go download these if they have some added support that you need but isn't within your distro's latest kernel release. I had this issue and that's the only reason I know about it. -- David M. Fetter - http://www.fetterconsulting.com/ "The world is full of power and energy and a person can go far by just skimming off a tiny bit of it." Neal Stephenson - Snow Crash