The exploit sinuspl.net/ptrace/isec-ptrace-kmod-exploit.c works on the last version of 2.2.19 released by SuSE. The reason I am still running this kernel on one machine (with SuSE 8.0) is that it contains a biggy SiS chipset for which 2.4.19 has a workaround, but that workaround was removed again from all 2.4 kernels up to at least 2.4.16. For the record, the kernel update installed without a hitch on 3 different 8.1 machines by a simple rpm -Uvh. Even mk_initrd was completely automagic. People who use binary-only kernel drivers must expect these to break with each kernel change. The SuSE-supplied vmware modules crash vmware 2.0.4 (sorry but vmware went beyond anything acceptable for upgrade prices), but the latest patches to the module source and a recompile of that fixed that. Now vmware panics again on power-up, guess I just have to recompile the modules again (come to think of it, the kernel update will have overwitten the ones I compiled). Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.