The Sunday 2004-10-24 at 11:29 +0300, Hugo wrote:
OK, I got it now... I think I just got confused as I didn't find header named envelope-from... I once wrote a simple program for sending email. I was quite surprised how easy it was to fake everything. That was years ago, but perhaps it's still the same.
I think so.
This is on the Spanish list (R5.4). It was not before.
The version I got just said that "It's better this way. Trust us." Which is why I'm answering to the list (as usually with the lists)... comments like this somehow do not convince me :-) And in this case, I think the conversation is important. But sorry for breaking the rules. I'll try to remember that better in the future.
No, no, please! You missunderstood me. I said that _some_ of suse lists say that in their rules: in particular, the suse spanish list (suse-linux-s) does (pasting the rule would be OT here, I think, and of no use to those not speaking the language). That rule was not there when we subscribed, and we certainly do not follow it. I don't know which, if any, other suse list have that rule. Perhaps none, I haven't checked recently. I find that absurd and unpractical.
- If some bot is actually subscribed, kick them out (some subscriber might set up a holiday notification...)
Manually? That is done here also, of course - when found. Some are difficult to track, it appears.
Yes, manually. If only list members are allowed to subscribe, shouldn't it then be easy to see who "is a bot"? Ah, yeah it should. But here as the replies come to the sender and not to the list, only the senders are seeing those bots and not the list admin or others. And as they do not see the problem... there is no problem. Or?
The mechanism is that you are supposed to forward those bounces (a sample) complete with headers to the mail admin (-owner). He takes care of unsubscribing him. The problem is that some times (like now) the "from" address of the bot is not subscribed... making it quite difficult to find out which address is really receiving the list and forwarding to the bot or so. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson