[opensuse-ruby] the case of the two rubies
Hi, Now that Klaus' ruby merge is done, I switched the OBS project to use it - as a test bed of a "product". It's plain impossible to keep yast and update OBS on 13.1 ;( We have several things required by yast libruby2.0.so.2.0 is required by yast2-ruby-bindings and libstorage-ruby ruby(abi) == 2.0.0 is required by rubygem-ruby-dbus and rubygem-fast_gettext So not to break yast the OBS "product" needs to provide at least 4 packages linking against ruby 2.1. The libruby2.0 problem will be gone for future updates as we now have libruby2_1 as a special package, but the ruby(abi) problem will stay and as I said before: making /usr/bin/ruby an update-alternative is only a solution as long as rubygem-fast_gettext isn't required by OBS with a different ruby abi. Greetings, Stephan -- Ma muaß weiterkämpfen, kämpfen bis zum Umfalln, a wenn die ganze Welt an Arsch offen hat, oder grad deswegn. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 08:28:38 +0100 Stephan Kulow <coolo@suse.de> wrote:
Hi,
Now that Klaus' ruby merge is done, I switched the OBS project to use it - as a test bed of a "product". It's plain impossible to keep yast and update OBS on 13.1 ;(
We have several things required by yast
libruby2.0.so.2.0 is required by yast2-ruby-bindings and libstorage-ruby ruby(abi) == 2.0.0 is required by rubygem-ruby-dbus and rubygem-fast_gettext packages linking against ruby 2.1. The libruby2.0 problem will be gone for future updates as we now have libruby2_1 as a special package, but the ruby(abi) problem will stay and as I said before: making /usr/bin/ruby an update-alternative is only a solution as long as rubygem-fast_gettext isn't required by OBS with a different ruby abi.
Yes, yast bindings is built against ruby that is provided by given release of opensuse and same for other C-bindings like libstorage. So if you want base OBS product on 13.1 you should use ruby that is provided there. And if you want it base on 13.2 then I hope it will have ruby 2.1. It is similar like with any other library or scripting language, if distribution provide perl 5.10 and you need 5.11, then you need to somehow bundle it and do work-arounds. Josef
Greetings, Stephan
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On 07.02.2014 09:05, Josef Reidinger wrote:
yast bindings is built against ruby that is provided by given release of opensuse and same for other C-bindings like libstorage. So if you want base OBS product on 13.1 you should use ruby that is provided there. And if you want it base on 13.2 then I hope it will have ruby 2.1. It is similar like with any other library or scripting language, if distribution provide perl 5.10 and you need 5.11, then you need to somehow bundle it and do work-arounds.
I'm aware - I just presented a case study. And I need to decide now if bundling ruby 2.1 is worth it ;( Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+owner@opensuse.org
On Friday 07 February 2014 08:28:38 Stephan Kulow wrote:
Hi,
Now that Klaus' ruby merge is done, I switched the OBS project to use it - as a test bed of a "product". It's plain impossible to keep yast and update OBS on 13.1 ;(
We have several things required by yast
libruby2.0.so.2.0 is required by yast2-ruby-bindings and libstorage-ruby ruby(abi) == 2.0.0 is required by rubygem-ruby-dbus and rubygem-fast_gettext
So not to break yast the OBS "product" needs to provide at least 4 packages linking against ruby 2.1. The libruby2.0 problem will be gone for future updates as we now have libruby2_1 as a special package, but the ruby(abi) problem will stay and as I said before: making /usr/bin/ruby an update-alternative is only a solution as long as rubygem-fast_gettext isn't required by OBS with a different ruby abi.
Couldn't you switch to plain rubygem-gettext? I guess it's only a transitive dependency anyway since I can't recall a German OBS :-) -- With kind regards, Sascha Peilicke SUSE Linux GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+owner@opensuse.org
On 07.02.2014 09:37, Sascha Peilicke wrote:
On Friday 07 February 2014 08:28:38 Stephan Kulow wrote:
Hi,
Now that Klaus' ruby merge is done, I switched the OBS project to use it - as a test bed of a "product". It's plain impossible to keep yast and update OBS on 13.1 ;(
We have several things required by yast
libruby2.0.so.2.0 is required by yast2-ruby-bindings and libstorage-ruby ruby(abi) == 2.0.0 is required by rubygem-ruby-dbus and rubygem-fast_gettext
So not to break yast the OBS "product" needs to provide at least 4 packages linking against ruby 2.1. The libruby2.0 problem will be gone for future updates as we now have libruby2_1 as a special package, but the ruby(abi) problem will stay and as I said before: making /usr/bin/ruby an update-alternative is only a solution as long as rubygem-fast_gettext isn't required by OBS with a different ruby abi.
Couldn't you switch to plain rubygem-gettext? I guess it's only a transitive dependency anyway since I can't recall a German OBS :-)
OBS does not gettext at the moment, no. But software.oo does for example and we won't be able to hold yast on the VM running software.oo soon ;( Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+owner@opensuse.org
On 07.02.2014 09:53, Stephan Kulow wrote:
On 07.02.2014 09:37, Sascha Peilicke wrote:
On Friday 07 February 2014 08:28:38 Stephan Kulow wrote:
Hi,
Now that Klaus' ruby merge is done, I switched the OBS project to use it - as a test bed of a "product". It's plain impossible to keep yast and update OBS on 13.1 ;(
We have several things required by yast
libruby2.0.so.2.0 is required by yast2-ruby-bindings and libstorage-ruby ruby(abi) == 2.0.0 is required by rubygem-ruby-dbus and rubygem-fast_gettext
So not to break yast the OBS "product" needs to provide at least 4 packages linking against ruby 2.1. The libruby2.0 problem will be gone for future updates as we now have libruby2_1 as a special package, but the ruby(abi) problem will stay and as I said before: making /usr/bin/ruby an update-alternative is only a solution as long as rubygem-fast_gettext isn't required by OBS with a different ruby abi.
Couldn't you switch to plain rubygem-gettext? I guess it's only a transitive dependency anyway since I can't recall a German OBS :-)
OBS does not gettext at the moment, no. But software.oo does for example and we won't be able to hold yast on the VM running software.oo soon ;(
... if deployed from packages - deploying our rails apps (including OBS) the "bundler/rvm way" is of course a valid option if we can't replace ruby. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 08:28:38AM +0100, Stephan Kulow wrote:
Hi,
Now that Klaus' ruby merge is done, I switched the OBS project to use it - as a test bed of a "product". It's plain impossible to keep yast and update OBS on 13.1 ;(
Do you mean OBS as the build object, not subject? https://build.opensuse.org/project/monitor/OBS:Server:2.5 I was quite confused before I understood that.
We have several things required by yast
libruby2.0.so.2.0 is required by yast2-ruby-bindings and libstorage-ruby ruby(abi) == 2.0.0 is required by rubygem-ruby-dbus and rubygem-fast_gettext
FWIW, as the upstream for rubygem-ruby-dbus I can say that it works with any Ruby version >= 1.9. I am not sure whether we should try packaging some gems as independent on the Ruby version. -- Martin Vidner, Cloud & Systems Management Team http://en.opensuse.org/User:Mvidner Kuracke oddeleni v restauraci je jako fekalni oddeleni v bazenu
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Josef Reidinger -
Martin Vidner -
Sascha Peilicke -
Stephan Kulow