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Martin Vidner

12 Feb 2014 12 Feb '14

14:54

... does not exist, but maybe it should :) What would you put there? Compare: http://en.opensuse.org/Python http://en.opensuse.org/Perl http://en.opensuse.org/Intercal http://en.opensuse.org/Category:Programming_language https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=en.opensuse.org+ruby -- Martin Vidner, Cloud & Systems Management Team http://en.opensuse.org/User:Mvidner Kuracke oddeleni v restauraci je jako fekalni oddeleni v bazenu

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Klaus Kaempf

27 Feb 27 Feb

08:01

* Martin Vidner [Feb 12. 2014 15:54]:

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... does not exist, but maybe it should :)

In order to document the ruby-2.1 packaging and the new macros used by gem2rpm, I created http://en.opensuse.org/Ruby this morning. Enjoy, Klaus -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+owner@opensuse.org

Sascha Peilicke

15:55

On Thursday 27 February 2014 09:01:02 Klaus Kaempf wrote:

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* Martin Vidner [Feb 12. 2014 15:54]:

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... does not exist, but maybe it should :)

In order to document the ruby-2.1 packaging and the new macros used by gem2rpm, I created http://en.opensuse.org/Ruby this morning.

This looks like a fan-boy page and doesn't belong to the openSUSE wiki IMO. What is wrong with updating http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Packaging_Ruby ? Also, there are still some other OBS projects that are in deep red after the very agile ruby changes (systemsmanagement:chef/crowbar). I sincerely hope this effort won't nosedive as soon as the SLE12 rush is over... my 2c. -- With kind regards, Sascha Peilicke SUSE Linux GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+owner@opensuse.org

Klaus Kaempf

16:11

* Sascha Peilicke [Feb 27. 2014 16:55]:

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On Thursday 27 February 2014 09:01:02 Klaus Kaempf wrote:

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* Martin Vidner [Feb 12. 2014 15:54]:

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... does not exist, but maybe it should :)

In order to document the ruby-2.1 packaging and the new macros used by gem2rpm, I created http://en.opensuse.org/Ruby this morning.

This looks like a fan-boy page and doesn't belong to the openSUSE wiki IMO.

LOL - actually its a copy of http://en.opensuse.org/Python You're welcome to improve the page - it's a wiki !

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What is wrong with updating http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Packaging_Ruby ?

Because http://en.opensuse.org/Ruby should be a generic introduction to Ruby and not about packaging Ruby.

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Also, there are still some other OBS projects that are in deep red after the very agile ruby changes (systemsmanagement:chef/crowbar).

d:l:r:e was in a similar state. A couple of 'gem2rpm' runs fixed this. Klaus -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+owner@opensuse.org

Martin Vidner

17:17

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 05:11:31PM +0100, Klaus Kaempf wrote:

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* Sascha Peilicke [Feb 27. 2014 16:55]:

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On Thursday 27 February 2014 09:01:02 Klaus Kaempf wrote:

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* Martin Vidner [Feb 12. 2014 15:54]:

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... does not exist, but maybe it should :)

In order to document the ruby-2.1 packaging and the new macros used by gem2rpm, I created http://en.opensuse.org/Ruby this morning.

This looks like a fan-boy page and doesn't belong to the openSUSE wiki IMO.

LOL - actually its a copy of http://en.opensuse.org/Python

You're welcome to improve the page - it's a wiki !

Thanks, Klaus!

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What is wrong with updating http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Packaging_Ruby ?

Because http://en.opensuse.org/Ruby should be a generic introduction to Ruby and not about packaging Ruby.

Actually I had in mind something yet different: not duplicating a generic introduction to Ruby, but explaining its relation to openSUSE. Specifically, I wanted to list all the places where oS deploys Ruby: - OBS front end - YaST - Cloud/Crowbar - ... -- Martin Vidner, Cloud & Systems Management Team http://en.opensuse.org/User:Mvidner Kuracke oddeleni v restauraci je jako fekalni oddeleni v bazenu

James Mason

17:30

>>> On 2/27/2014 at 09:17 AM,  wrote: 

> Actually I had in mind something yet different: not duplicating a
> generic introduction to Ruby, but explaining its relation to openSUSE.
> Specifically, I wanted to list all the places where oS deploys Ruby:
> 
> - OBS front end
> - YaST
> - Cloud/Crowbar
> - ...
- Studio! 


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Stephan Kulow

17:31

Am 27.02.2014 18:30, schrieb James Mason:
>>>> On 2/27/2014 at 09:17 AM,  wrote: 
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>> Actually I had in mind something yet different: not duplicating a
>> generic introduction to Ruby, but explaining its relation to openSUSE.
>> Specifically, I wanted to list all the places where oS deploys Ruby:
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>> - OBS front end
>> - YaST
>> - Cloud/Crowbar
>> - ...
> - Studio! 
openSUSE deploys Studio? Studio has come a long way :)

Greetings, Stephan

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Sascha Peilicke

28 Feb 28 Feb

13:58

On Thursday 27 February 2014 17:11:31 Klaus Kaempf wrote:

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* Sascha Peilicke [Feb 27. 2014 16:55]:

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On Thursday 27 February 2014 09:01:02 Klaus Kaempf wrote:

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* Martin Vidner [Feb 12. 2014 15:54]:

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... does not exist, but maybe it should :)

In order to document the ruby-2.1 packaging and the new macros used by gem2rpm, I created http://en.opensuse.org/Ruby this morning.

This looks like a fan-boy page and doesn't belong to the openSUSE wiki IMO.

LOL - actually its a copy of http://en.opensuse.org/Python

I can already see us registering a new DNS name "opensusepedia". So I guess both pages really don't belong into the wiki.

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You're welcome to improve the page - it's a wiki !

Having to clean up after people is certainly something I enjoy.

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What is wrong with updating http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Packaging_Ruby ? Because http://en.opensuse.org/Ruby should be a generic introduction to Ruby and not about packaging Ruby.

To cite you "In order to document the ruby-2.1 packaging and the new macros used by gem2rpm". For that you need a marketing page and refuse to improve the packaging one?

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Also, there are still some other OBS projects that are in deep red after the very agile ruby changes (systemsmanagement:chef/crowbar).

d:l:r:e was in a similar state. A couple of 'gem2rpm' runs fixed this.

https://build.opensuse.org/project/monitor/devel:languages:ruby:extensions?blocked=0&building=0&dispatching=0&finished=0&scheduled=0&signing=0&succeeded=0 looks like it still is. Maybe we should disable some of the build targets that we are not interested in anymore? -- With kind regards, Sascha Peilicke SUSE Linux GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+owner@opensuse.org

Klaus Kaempf

1 Mar 1 Mar

10:20

* Sascha Peilicke [Feb 28. 2014 14:58]:

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https://build.opensuse.org/project/monitor/devel:languages:ruby:extensions?blocked=0&building=0&dispatching=0&finished=0&scheduled=0&signing=0&succeeded=0

looks like it still is. Maybe we should disable some of the build targets that we are not interested in anymore?

Coolo and I focus on Factory where 10 gems failed last time I looked. All the failures were related to Ruby 2.1 incompatibilities. I'd be interested in which build targets people actually need. Klaus -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+owner@opensuse.org

Klaus Kaempf

27 Feb 27 Feb

18:00

New subject: [opensuse-ruby] systemsmanagement:chef/crowbar not building

* Sascha Peilicke [Feb 27. 2014 16:55]:

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Also, there are still some other OBS projects that are in deep red after the very agile ruby changes (systemsmanagement:chef/crowbar).

Indeed, the project setup for systemsmanagement:chef:master seems broken since many rubygem packages fail for openSUSE_Factory while they succeed in d:l:r:e Klaus -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+owner@opensuse.org

Nanuk Krinner

19:46

New subject: [opensuse-ruby] systemsmanagement:chef/crowbar not building

Hi, On 02/27/2014 07:00 PM, Klaus Kaempf wrote:

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Indeed, the project setup for systemsmanagement:chef:master seems broken since many rubygem packages fail for openSUSE_Factory while they succeed in d:l:r:e

I will fix what is broken in systemsmanagement:chef:master. Most gems we need are built in d:l:r:e now. Regards, Nanuk

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Klaus

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Sascha Peilicke

28 Feb 28 Feb

14:16

New subject: [opensuse-ruby] Re: systemsmanagement:chef/crowbar not building

On Thursday 27 February 2014 19:00:43 you wrote:

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* Sascha Peilicke [Feb 27. 2014 16:55]:

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Also, there are still some other OBS projects that are in deep red after the very agile ruby changes (systemsmanagement:chef/crowbar).

Indeed, the project setup for systemsmanagement:chef:master seems broken since many rubygem packages fail for openSUSE_Factory while they succeed in d:l:r:e

It broke because the whole of devel:languages:ruby{:backports,:extensions) was changed by you. You wanted to get your SLE12 feature in and I'll bet a beer you'll silently disappear just after SLE12 goes GMC. In general, disruptive changes are ok if they are properly communicated to the community (so that everybody is aware) and if they are justified. In this case, neither is true. The way this all has been executed is really the perfect example how to ignore an existing community. I still believe openSUSE is a meritocracy but quite frankly, I dunno how you ended up getting the maintainership rights to break what's been working well. Sigh, I guess I'll just join darix and lay down Ruby my project maintainership rights and solve other issues. -- With kind regards, Sascha Peilicke SUSE Linux GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+owner@opensuse.org

Josef Reidinger

14:29

New subject: [opensuse-ruby] Re: systemsmanagement:chef/crowbar not building

On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 22:16:56 +0800 Sascha Peilicke wrote:

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On Thursday 27 February 2014 19:00:43 you wrote:

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* Sascha Peilicke [Feb 27. 2014 16:55]:

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Also, there are still some other OBS projects that are in deep red after the very agile ruby changes (systemsmanagement:chef/crowbar).

Indeed, the project setup for systemsmanagement:chef:master seems broken since many rubygem packages fail for openSUSE_Factory while they succeed in d:l:r:e

It broke because the whole of devel:languages:ruby{:backports,:extensions) was changed by you. You wanted to get your SLE12 feature in and I'll bet a beer you'll silently disappear just after SLE12 goes GMC.

It is not about SLE12 at all. It is about getting ruby2.1 into opensuse. Problem is that it change some locations and we want to be better prepared for future. It also reflect that opensuse support in one release one ruby version. Josef -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+owner@opensuse.org

Sascha Peilicke

14:32

New subject: [opensuse-ruby] Re: systemsmanagement:chef/crowbar not building

On Friday 28 February 2014 15:29:06 Josef Reidinger wrote:

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On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 22:16:56 +0800

Sascha Peilicke wrote:

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On Thursday 27 February 2014 19:00:43 you wrote:

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* Sascha Peilicke [Feb 27. 2014 16:55]:

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Also, there are still some other OBS projects that are in deep red after the very agile ruby changes (systemsmanagement:chef/crowbar).

Indeed, the project setup for systemsmanagement:chef:master seems broken since many rubygem packages fail for openSUSE_Factory while they succeed in d:l:r:e

It broke because the whole of devel:languages:ruby{:backports,:extensions) was changed by you. You wanted to get your SLE12 feature in and I'll bet a beer you'll silently disappear just after SLE12 goes GMC.

It is not about SLE12 at all. It is about getting ruby2.1 into opensuse. Problem is that it change some locations and we want to be better prepared for future. It also reflect that opensuse support in one release one ruby version.

Which was decided by whom again? -- With kind regards, Sascha Peilicke SUSE Linux GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+owner@opensuse.org

Josef Reidinger

14:37

New subject: [opensuse-ruby] Re: systemsmanagement:chef/crowbar not building

On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 22:32 +0800 Sascha Peilicke wrote:

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On Friday 28 February 2014 15:29:06 Josef Reidinger wrote:

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On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 22:16:56 +0800

Sascha Peilicke wrote:

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On Thursday 27 February 2014 19:00:43 you wrote:

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* Sascha Peilicke [Feb 27. 2014 16:55]:

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Also, there are still some other OBS projects that are in deep red after the very agile ruby changes (systemsmanagement:chef/crowbar).

Indeed, the project setup for systemsmanagement:chef:master seems broken since many rubygem packages fail for openSUSE_Factory while they succeed in d:l:r:e

It broke because the whole of devel:languages:ruby{:backports,:extensions) was changed by you. You wanted to get your SLE12 feature in and I'll bet a beer you'll silently disappear just after SLE12 goes GMC.

It is not about SLE12 at all. It is about getting ruby2.1 into opensuse. Problem is that it change some locations and we want to be better prepared for future. It also reflect that opensuse support in one release one ruby version.

Which was decided by whom again?

see whole discussion at this mailing list about ruby 2.1. You can speak up anytime - http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-ruby/2014-01/msg00000.html and http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-ruby/2014-01/msg00036.html I do not see any issue that cause problem to opensuse. Just that SUSE cloud can have problem with single ruby version in distro and I am still not convinced that it really will have it. Josef P.S. no need to CC me, I am on the list -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+owner@opensuse.org

Sascha Peilicke

14:39

New subject: [opensuse-ruby] Re: systemsmanagement:chef/crowbar not building

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Josef

P.S. no need to CC me, I am on the list

Sorry, for that, kmail defaults. And everone has a different take on that :-) -- With kind regards, Sascha Peilicke SUSE Linux GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-ruby+owner@opensuse.org

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